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Responding to the several comments about how there aren't tactical buttons and that you have to look at the large center console: that isn't accurate. There ar

Responding to the several comments about how there aren't tactical buttons and that you have to look at the large center console: that isn't accurate. There are four buttons and two "scroll wheel buttons" on the steering wheel that control music, the sunroof, climate, etc. The feedback for those buttons is provided on the second digital screen that is behind the steer column, so your eyes just move up/down not towards the center console. Just saying :) Source: Just completed my second Portland <-> Yosemite trip in my "legacy" P85 that is 2+ years old now. I love it, but I'm jealous of the goodies in the new cars!

kylec 11y ago
I did not know this, thanks for sharing. I found a video on YouTube where someone went over the buttons and how to use them. My biggest complaint with them would be that in order to adjust the climate you have to press the right scroll wheel, scroll to the setting you want to adjust (temperature, fan speed, roof, etc), press the button again, then use the scroll wheel again to adjust the setting, all while looking at the display in the instrument cluster. Better than the touchscreen, but still less convenient that I'd prefer.
- mikeash 11y ago
  Note that it remembers which setting you used last, so in the common case where you're always adjusting e.g. temperature, you just scroll the wheel up or down. I won't argue that the setup is less convenient than it could be. On the other hand, I always found reaching over to some center console to fiddle with buttons and knobs to be extremely cumbersome even if I learned to find them all by feel.
Vik1ng 11y ago
> There are four buttons and two "scroll wheel buttons" on the steering wheel that control music, the sunroof, climate, etc. Yes, but you have to program them to what you want in that moment or have to click a dozen times to reach what you are looking for. You don't have the ONE button at the roof that opens the sunroof every time you press it.

kylec 11y ago

I did not know this, thanks for sharing. I found a video on YouTube where someone went over the buttons and how to use them. My biggest complaint with them would be that in order to adjust the climate you have to press the right scroll wheel, scroll to the setting you want to adjust (temperature, fan speed, roof, etc), press the button again, then use the scroll wheel again to adjust the setting, all while looking at the display in the instrument cluster. Better than the touchscreen, but still less convenient that I'd prefer.

mikeash 11y ago
Note that it remembers which setting you used last, so in the common case where you're always adjusting e.g. temperature, you just scroll the wheel up or down. I won't argue that the setup is less convenient than it could be. On the other hand, I always found reaching over to some center console to fiddle with buttons and knobs to be extremely cumbersome even if I learned to find them all by feel.

Vik1ng 11y ago

> There are four buttons and two "scroll wheel buttons" on the steering wheel that control music, the sunroof, climate, etc. Yes, but you have to program them to what you want in that moment or have to click a dozen times to reach what you are looking for. You don't have the ONE button at the roof that opens the sunroof every time you press it.