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Lenin !== Stalin ...that's a pretty big confusion imho :) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin#1920.E2.80.9322 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir
by nnq 11y ago
Lenin !== Stalin
...that's a pretty big confusion imho :) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin#1920.E2.80.9322 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin#1920.E2.80.9322 .
L. was an "not so sane" idealist that end up making a mess that resulted in lots and lots of people getting killed. In the end he even tried and partially succeeded to get some things right.
S. was a power-hungry genocidal psychopathic maniac that actually killed more people than Hitler (oh, and as a sideline, the non-aggression pact he signed with H. also gave the natzys confidence to go ahead and invade all the fucking Europe, and after this ofc that they thought themselves so superior that they could think of "final solutions"... you can put at ~25% of WW2's destruction, plus 50% of the Korean War, plus the consequences of the rushed soviet nuclear program on Stalin's bill too! ). He may have had the "socialist ideals" as an excuse, but that was simply an excuse. He fucked up everything he and his politics touched even post WW2 by "indirect influence": Eastern Europe, North Korea, China... even socialism itself and it's international leaders!
I'm not a leftie, but there's no comparison between the two...
- vanderZwan 11y ago> that resulted in lots and lots of people getting killed Nitpick: "resulted" implies a passive role that is letting him off a bit too easy. Lenin wasn't out to commit genocide, but he still gave orders to hang people by the hundreds, blinded by an idealistic belief that it was for the greater good.
- nnq 11y agoAgree, both were mass murderers. But considering the body-count, there a difference of quite a few... orders or magnitude.
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