> Are there particular packages that are missing that you'd prefer to be available? octave, mono, etc. The whole reason openports.se exists. It's more an outco

> Are there particular packages that are missing that you'd prefer to be available? octave, mono, etc. The whole reason openports.se exists. It's more an outcome of how small openbsd team is so it's not intrinsically their fault, but nonetheless is something that prevents wider adoption. > So compile them yourself, with or without ports. And track upstream for security issues and possibly apply patches to make it work on OpenBSD and whatnot which can easily turn into 30 minute dance each day just to maintain the system. It's fine on a servers where you are paid to administer it, but it's not fine on workstation dekstops. > the actual "blessed method" involving getting install media is actually to order a CD-ROM set What glandium said + it's rather anachronistic to expect operating systems to arrive by mail in the age of computers. > so I'm not really sure how that's relevant in this particular discussion. Ubuntu has its own (numerous) flaws, but it requires less work to maintain. It was more a remark that if grsecurity becomes unavailable on servers then even if you don't run it on desktop we should start thinking about moving to other platforms out of the principle that if the system can't be hardened then it shouldn't be used.