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Yes, Windows 10 does do more with your data than any previous version of Windows, but that is not always a bad thing. Really? What a blabla article, with no in

by frik 11y ago

Yes, Windows 10 does do more with your data than any previous version of Windows, but that is not always a bad thing. Really? What a blabla article, with no investigative journalims. Have they analysed the encrypted (SSL) data traffic to dozens of domains? Of course not. Such a soviet kind of operating system isn't well regarded in the land of the free(dom). And there are no reports that more than 10 recent Win7&8 updates ship with many spy&tracking features. An unheard offensive tactics that shows Microsoft evil attempt.

WalterGR 11y ago
Really? What a blabla article, with no investigative journalims. Have they analysed the encrypted (SSL) data traffic to dozens of domains? Of course not. Has anyone, or is this just FUD? I recently got a Mac - I'm typing this in OS X, so how does Windows 10 compare to OS X, out of curiosity? Linux certainly wins on this point, though. Unless Ubuntu has telemetry?
- et1337 11y ago
  It does, sort of. http://www.zdnet.com/article/shuttleworth-defends-ubuntu-linux-integrating-amazon/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/shuttleworth-defends-ubuntu-lin...
  - Narishma 11y ago
    It did.
  - gillianseed 11y ago
    Yes that was a really stupid move, thankfully they seem to be changing this to opt-in rather than opt-out. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-make-amazon-product-results-opt-unity http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-make-amazon-produc...
- frik 11y ago
  Use a firewall and watch the traffic. As the traffic is encrypted you cannot see the raw data but the various domains. In iOS, Android and Ubuntu Linux the phone-home feature(s) can be easily deactivated, that's the point.
  - WalterGR 11y ago
    As the traffic is encrypted you cannot see the raw data but the various domains. iOS, Android, and Ubuntu also encrypt the telemetry traffic for the same reason: security. Just like Windows. If they didn't encrypt it, then anyone on the same network - such as the Wi-Fi at your local Starbucks - could see your OS and programs phoning home. This is not some evil Microsoft conspiracy: it is the cost of doing business. In iOS, Android and Ubuntu Linux the phone-home feature(s) can be easily deactivated, that's the point. Can you disable every phone-home feature on those OSes? Which features can't be disabled on Windows 10? I'm legitimately curious because I have Windows 7 and am contemplating the upgrade.
prodmerc 11y ago
Funny that you say that - even Russia doesn't want Windows 10 as the OS for government institutions because it's so intrusive: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//top.rbc.ru/politics/21/08/2015/55d7022b9a79472a7602e4e5 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%...
0xffffabcd 11y ago
> Such a soviet kind of operating system isn't well regarded in the land of the free Land of the free? have you been living under a rock? "Land of the free" where everything you do is being spied on by a government agency funded with your tax dollars.
JustSomeNobody 11y ago
It's a blog.

by frik 11y ago

WalterGR 11y ago

Really? What a blabla article, with no investigative journalims. Have they analysed the encrypted (SSL) data traffic to dozens of domains? Of course not. Has anyone, or is this just FUD? I recently got a Mac - I'm typing this in OS X, so how does Windows 10 compare to OS X, out of curiosity? Linux certainly wins on this point, though. Unless Ubuntu has telemetry?

et1337 11y ago
It does, sort of. http://www.zdnet.com/article/shuttleworth-defends-ubuntu-linux-integrating-amazon/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/shuttleworth-defends-ubuntu-lin...
- Narishma 11y ago
  It did.
- gillianseed 11y ago
  Yes that was a really stupid move, thankfully they seem to be changing this to opt-in rather than opt-out. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-make-amazon-product-results-opt-unity http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-make-amazon-produc...
frik 11y ago
Use a firewall and watch the traffic. As the traffic is encrypted you cannot see the raw data but the various domains. In iOS, Android and Ubuntu Linux the phone-home feature(s) can be easily deactivated, that's the point.
- WalterGR 11y ago
  As the traffic is encrypted you cannot see the raw data but the various domains. iOS, Android, and Ubuntu also encrypt the telemetry traffic for the same reason: security. Just like Windows. If they didn't encrypt it, then anyone on the same network - such as the Wi-Fi at your local Starbucks - could see your OS and programs phoning home. This is not some evil Microsoft conspiracy: it is the cost of doing business. In iOS, Android and Ubuntu Linux the phone-home feature(s) can be easily deactivated, that's the point. Can you disable every phone-home feature on those OSes? Which features can't be disabled on Windows 10? I'm legitimately curious because I have Windows 7 and am contemplating the upgrade.

prodmerc 11y ago

Funny that you say that - even Russia doesn't want Windows 10 as the OS for government institutions because it's so intrusive: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//top.rbc.ru/politics/21/08/2015/55d7022b9a79472a7602e4e5 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%...

0xffffabcd 11y ago

> Such a soviet kind of operating system isn't well regarded in the land of the free Land of the free? have you been living under a rock? "Land of the free" where everything you do is being spied on by a government agency funded with your tax dollars.

JustSomeNobody 11y ago

It's a blog.