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Maybe for servers. It's completely unusable due to performance problems on my i7-powered thinkpad.

by na85 11y ago

lnufnu 11y ago
"The test series, unfit in our view for production use, will however continue to be available to the public to avoid impact to the Gentoo Hardened and Arch Linux communities." Why would you have to migrate to OpenBSD? Is the test series unstable?
- mfukar 11y ago
  Well, it's not called "stable".
bmir-alum-007 11y ago
One risk of using OpenBSD is a lot, but not quite enough, people use it on enough on random hardware and give actionable feedback to make it battle-tested, "Just Work" (TM).
yellowapple 11y ago
Really? I run it on a PowerBook G4, and while it's sluggish, it's not entirely "unsuable". If a 10-year-old single-core machine can handle OpenBSD, I'd be amazed by even the slightest performance issue on a quad-core, hyperthreaded, modern PC. What's additionally surprising is that this is the case on a Thinkpad, of all things; IIRC, the OpenBSD devs dogfood OpenBSD pretty heavily on Thinkpads due to their FOSS-friendliness. Does your laptop have an Nvidia GPU, by chance? In my experience, those do tend to have very bad performance on OpenBSD. Intel and AMD/ATI GPUs should work better. Also, it's worth mentioning that OpenBSD's kernel has a whole slew of debugging and error checking features compiled in by default; compiling a custom kernel without such features can be done, but the docs don't really recommend it, since it becomes excruciatingly difficult to troubleshoot any problems with it.
- na85 11y ago
  My laptop has an Intel card, and everything is nominally supported. You are free to be surprised all you wish: I went back to linux because I was sick of dealing with the system locking up for 5-10 seconds every time I opened, closed, or switched to a new browser tab. Couple that with 1-2 fewer hours' worth of battery life and I found myself very quickly asking what the point of "code correctness" was if the system just doesn't work. A thoroughly frustrating experience from top to bottom.
  - yellowapple 11y ago
    Just saying. If you haven't already, I'd definitely send them a bug report and dmesg; that all seems very abnormal.

Maybe for servers. It's completely unusable due to performance problems on my i7-powered thinkpad.

by na85 11y ago

Maybe for servers. It's completely unusable due to performance problems on my i7-powered thinkpad.

"The test series, unfit in our view for production use, will however continue to be available to the public to avoid impact to the Gentoo Hardened and Arch Linux communities." Why would you have to migrate to OpenBSD? Is the test series unstable?

mfukar 11y ago
Well, it's not called "stable".

bmir-alum-007 11y ago

One risk of using OpenBSD is a lot, but not quite enough, people use it on enough on random hardware and give actionable feedback to make it battle-tested, "Just Work" (TM).

yellowapple 11y ago

Really? I run it on a PowerBook G4, and while it's sluggish, it's not entirely "unsuable". If a 10-year-old single-core machine can handle OpenBSD, I'd be amazed by even the slightest performance issue on a quad-core, hyperthreaded, modern PC. What's additionally surprising is that this is the case on a Thinkpad, of all things; IIRC, the OpenBSD devs dogfood OpenBSD pretty heavily on Thinkpads due to their FOSS-friendliness. Does your laptop have an Nvidia GPU, by chance? In my experience, those do tend to have very bad performance on OpenBSD. Intel and AMD/ATI GPUs should work better. Also, it's worth mentioning that OpenBSD's kernel has a whole slew of debugging and error checking features compiled in by default; compiling a custom kernel without such features can be done, but the docs don't really recommend it, since it becomes excruciatingly difficult to troubleshoot any problems with it.

na85 11y ago
My laptop has an Intel card, and everything is nominally supported. You are free to be surprised all you wish: I went back to linux because I was sick of dealing with the system locking up for 5-10 seconds every time I opened, closed, or switched to a new browser tab. Couple that with 1-2 fewer hours' worth of battery life and I found myself very quickly asking what the point of "code correctness" was if the system just doesn't work. A thoroughly frustrating experience from top to bottom.
- yellowapple 11y ago
  Just saying. If you haven't already, I'd definitely send them a bug report and dmesg; that all seems very abnormal.