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An ad-homenium attack on me? Wow. Are you seriously going to claim that Wikipedia is "patriotic BS"? "Although the directing powers, and the government as wel
by cjensen 11y ago
An ad-homenium attack on me? Wow.
Are you seriously going to claim that Wikipedia is "patriotic BS"?
"Although the directing powers, and the government as well, are convinced that our war strength still can deliver considerable blows to the enemy, we are unable to feel absolutely secure peace of mind ... Please bear particularly in mind, however, that we are not seeking the Russians' mediation for anything like an unconditional surrender." -- Tōgō 1945 July 17 [1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan
- coldtea 11y ago>An ad-homenium attack on me? Wow. No, a lament for the state of historical education in the US. To which I agree with people like Howard Zinn etc. >Wikipedia is "patriotic BS"? Wikipedia is whoever writes it. If you consider Wikipedia a scholarly source, then we don't have much to discuss. Second, It's well known that Japan didn't want an "unconditional surrender". It was a surrender nonetheless, of an exhausted nation, with some provisions mainly to have the emperor save face. Instead the US burn alive 200.000+ men, women and children, in order to test their new toys and send a message to Japan. (Note that even if any kind of surrender was off the table, using a nuclear bomb on a war, and on civilian targets nonetheless, is still Nazi-level war criminality).