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I think there is significant enough opposition to the notion that the IRS would have such a capability that at the very least it will be the very last agency to

by wahsd 11y ago

I think there is significant enough opposition to the notion that the IRS would have such a capability that at the very least it will be the very last agency to get it. I can't see even the Republicans crossing that line.

ivanca 11y ago
They cross any line anytime... that's easy to see if you know who is leading their presidential poll right now.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  There are plenty of loons everywhere....
  - themartorana 11y ago
    What is the need to defend-through-balance? Just because Y isn't perfect doesn't mean we shouldn't point out and hold to full accountability the faults of X. X, here, being the Republican base which is, it seems, so much more radical than it has ever been before in my life. Y has all sorts of faults of their own, but there shouldn't be compulsion to hold it up as defense of X.
    - dogma1138 11y ago
      It's not the need to defend through balance it's the constant push of the extremes to the spot light mostly by none-other than the opposition. Trump gets more air time (direct or in name) by the media which is aligned with the democratic party than say FOX news. And the republicans are no better one of the biggest pushes for Obama leading to the 2004 elections were the republicans with their constant "fascination" with him. Now I'm not comparing Obama to Trump here as an individual but as a candidate the rednecks hating on Obama pushed more democrats to his side because "we are supposed to object to them aren't we?" same thing goes here Trump is surprisingly quite a good public speaker, he knows how to work a crowed and he knows how rub people the wrong or well the right way to get the responses he wants from them. When the opposing party is attacking him day and night it not only give him free publicity but moves more and more people to his side because when you feel that your side is under attack you align yourself to "defend" it. This is the same reality that breaks or tears so many social movements especially on the internet apart since eventually they grow to the point where they have some many loons that that's the only thing that your "opposition" is attacking you with and well you can't side with them can't you now? And this isn't just happening to politics, this is the same human behavior that killed Greenpeace (all of it's founders were pushed aside by radicals) and why you can't tackle any serious issues whether it's wall street or global conflicts. Just try having a movement for a 2 state solutions in the Israeli-Palestinian conflicts you'll start with few ideals that want to open a good dialog, you'll end up absorbing BDS loons, people with signs that praise Hamas, your gatherings end up having "From the river to the sea Palestine will be free" chants that leave not room well for a 2 state solution. Animal rights? pfft you'll end having naked people running and spraying fake blood, social equality? that will turn into a Guy Fawkes look a like contest, the ease of inclusiveness which comes with the modern times pretty much exclude you from dealing with any major issue in a serious manner.
jlgaddis 11y ago
Significant enough opposition from who? The public / the taxpayers? What makes you think they'd even let us know about it?

by wahsd 11y ago

ivanca 11y ago

They cross any line anytime... that's easy to see if you know who is leading their presidential poll right now.

dogma1138 11y ago
There are plenty of loons everywhere....
- themartorana 11y ago
  What is the need to defend-through-balance? Just because Y isn't perfect doesn't mean we shouldn't point out and hold to full accountability the faults of X. X, here, being the Republican base which is, it seems, so much more radical than it has ever been before in my life. Y has all sorts of faults of their own, but there shouldn't be compulsion to hold it up as defense of X.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    It's not the need to defend through balance it's the constant push of the extremes to the spot light mostly by none-other than the opposition. Trump gets more air time (direct or in name) by the media which is aligned with the democratic party than say FOX news. And the republicans are no better one of the biggest pushes for Obama leading to the 2004 elections were the republicans with their constant "fascination" with him. Now I'm not comparing Obama to Trump here as an individual but as a candidate the rednecks hating on Obama pushed more democrats to his side because "we are supposed to object to them aren't we?" same thing goes here Trump is surprisingly quite a good public speaker, he knows how to work a crowed and he knows how rub people the wrong or well the right way to get the responses he wants from them. When the opposing party is attacking him day and night it not only give him free publicity but moves more and more people to his side because when you feel that your side is under attack you align yourself to "defend" it. This is the same reality that breaks or tears so many social movements especially on the internet apart since eventually they grow to the point where they have some many loons that that's the only thing that your "opposition" is attacking you with and well you can't side with them can't you now? And this isn't just happening to politics, this is the same human behavior that killed Greenpeace (all of it's founders were pushed aside by radicals) and why you can't tackle any serious issues whether it's wall street or global conflicts. Just try having a movement for a 2 state solutions in the Israeli-Palestinian conflicts you'll start with few ideals that want to open a good dialog, you'll end up absorbing BDS loons, people with signs that praise Hamas, your gatherings end up having "From the river to the sea Palestine will be free" chants that leave not room well for a 2 state solution. Animal rights? pfft you'll end having naked people running and spraying fake blood, social equality? that will turn into a Guy Fawkes look a like contest, the ease of inclusiveness which comes with the modern times pretty much exclude you from dealing with any major issue in a serious manner.

jlgaddis 11y ago

Significant enough opposition from who? The public / the taxpayers? What makes you think they'd even let us know about it?