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Who cares about email addresses? Credit card numbers are how you incriminate your cheating spouse.

by volune 11y ago

mhurron 11y ago
This is what you needed, especially in this case. Ashley Madison did not verify e-mail addresses, anyone could put any address in there.
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briantmaurer 11y ago
Credit card numbers are often stolen and therefore are not a good singular piece of evidence.
- legohead 11y ago
  Don't know why you got downvoted. My CC was recently compromised, and the "thief" purchased a lot of very odd things all at once which triggered the flag, including online services I had never heard of. And lots of dominos pizza!
fredkbloggs 11y ago
Except as many others have pointed out, having an account on the site with a matching credit card number does not offer proof of cheating, nor even of intent. I'm not very sympathetic to the people making this argument (the "it ruined my life!" crowd), because the reality is that probably 90%+ of all the account holders cheated or intended to cheat while married, without their spouse's approval or knowledge. As far as I'm concerned, if you had an account there, it was up to you to make sure your spouse knew that, and why. And it's your fault if your spouse is unhappy about it or doesn't believe your post hoc explanation. The criminals responsible for the leak need to be punished severely, but the criminal nature of their acts doesn't let you off the hook. Nevertheless, this all falls well within reasonable doubt for me, so I'm not going to call someone a "cheating spouse" even if 100% certain they had an account. For one, I don't care; what is and not cheating is between spouses. For another, I don't need a libel lawsuit. And last, calling someone a cheater doesn't provide me any benefit anyway. So maybe lay off the loaded language a little.
- volune 11y ago
  true. more evidence is needed. my point was more that simply an email address is definitely not enough evidence.

Who cares about email addresses? Credit card numbers are how you incriminate your cheating spouse.

by volune 11y ago

Who cares about email addresses? Credit card numbers are how you incriminate your cheating spouse.

This is what you needed, especially in this case. Ashley Madison did not verify e-mail addresses, anyone could put any address in there.

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briantmaurer 11y ago

Credit card numbers are often stolen and therefore are not a good singular piece of evidence.

legohead 11y ago
Don't know why you got downvoted. My CC was recently compromised, and the "thief" purchased a lot of very odd things all at once which triggered the flag, including online services I had never heard of. And lots of dominos pizza!

fredkbloggs 11y ago

Except as many others have pointed out, having an account on the site with a matching credit card number does not offer proof of cheating, nor even of intent. I'm not very sympathetic to the people making this argument (the "it ruined my life!" crowd), because the reality is that probably 90%+ of all the account holders cheated or intended to cheat while married, without their spouse's approval or knowledge. As far as I'm concerned, if you had an account there, it was up to you to make sure your spouse knew that, and why. And it's your fault if your spouse is unhappy about it or doesn't believe your post hoc explanation. The criminals responsible for the leak need to be punished severely, but the criminal nature of their acts doesn't let you off the hook. Nevertheless, this all falls well within reasonable doubt for me, so I'm not going to call someone a "cheating spouse" even if 100% certain they had an account. For one, I don't care; what is and not cheating is between spouses. For another, I don't need a libel lawsuit. And last, calling someone a cheater doesn't provide me any benefit anyway. So maybe lay off the loaded language a little.

volune 11y ago
true. more evidence is needed. my point was more that simply an email address is definitely not enough evidence.