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> Why would you expect to be able to come back into having people report to you after a five month leave from a high-paced environment? You seem to be suggesti

by objclxt 11y ago

> Why would you expect to be able to come back into having people report to you after a five month leave from a high-paced environment? You seem to be suggesting that if I'm a manager and I take maternity leave it's totally OK for me to come back to a completely different position with no reports or responsibility. That seems...wrong. > So, in the end, she collected half a year's pay for no work, and then quit [...] At companies like these, women in fact have a clear advantage in getting hired - though that is damaged by stories of women collecting pay for no work and then quitting right afterwards. That sounds like the ramblings of a misogynist. Firstly, you say women have a "clear advantage" at tech companies, when there's absolutely no evidence that's the case (indeed, all of the evidence is the opposite: most tech firms are majority male, with very few women in leadership roles). Secondly, you seem to be suggesting we shouldn't provide paid maternity (or paternity) leave and to do so damages a company, when again all the evidence on productivity suggests that companies that provide such benefits perform better and have more satisfied employees that are retained for longer. > I can't help but coming away from this article with an impression of an air of self-entitlement. Yes, how dare a women who goes off to have children expect to be able to come back into the workplace in the same position she had when she left? Comments like yours illustrate exactly what's wrong with the industry. In a way it's a shame you're going to be downvoted because people really need to see the kind of crap that gets thrown around.

johnbellone 11y ago
> Yes, how dare a women who goes off to have children expect to be able to come back into the workplace in the same position she had when she left? Cancer. We're talking about fucking cancer. But otherwise you're spot on - I wish this asshole wouldn't be downvoted and would have used a real account.
78666cdc 11y ago
You're strongly misinterpreting what I said. Of course she should be back in the same position after maternity leave. But when there's a team of people that report to you, they need to report to someone else while you're away for five months. Of course when you go back they'll be reporting to someone else until you're back up to speed on what's gone on for nearly half a year. Whether getting back up to speed takes 15 minutes or two weeks will of course very with respect to the position and the project. See also the edit I added to my original comment. Edit: and yes, in my experience and from what I've seen, women have a clear advantage in hiring. Note that I specifically said "hiring" advantage.

by objclxt 11y ago

johnbellone 11y ago

> Yes, how dare a women who goes off to have children expect to be able to come back into the workplace in the same position she had when she left? Cancer. We're talking about fucking cancer. But otherwise you're spot on - I wish this asshole wouldn't be downvoted and would have used a real account.

78666cdc 11y ago

You're strongly misinterpreting what I said. Of course she should be back in the same position after maternity leave. But when there's a team of people that report to you, they need to report to someone else while you're away for five months. Of course when you go back they'll be reporting to someone else until you're back up to speed on what's gone on for nearly half a year. Whether getting back up to speed takes 15 minutes or two weeks will of course very with respect to the position and the project. See also the edit I added to my original comment. Edit: and yes, in my experience and from what I've seen, women have a clear advantage in hiring. Note that I specifically said "hiring" advantage.