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I'm surprised that people buy into this rubbish that lead paint has actually caused these health issues. True, irrelevant point to the article but points to a

I'm surprised that people buy into this rubbish that lead paint has actually caused these health issues. True, irrelevant point to the article but points to a broken system on many levels including understanding and correctly dealing with mental health issues.

johnloeber 11y ago
What are you even saying? Lead is very well-established as a neurotoxin.
mirimir 11y ago
The epidemiology is solid. Some cohort studies ran for decades. They followed lead levels in blood and bone. They tested intelligence and documented behavior. They tracked educational and criminal history. The neonatal brain is exquisitely sensitive to lead.
- aaron695 11y ago
  And this is why juries don't work. It is probably banging my head against a brick wall, but seriously whole generations had lead based paint and lead products. Rich and poor. It's even in the water supply - http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2004/05/heavy_metal.html http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_exa... But these people with lawsuits had these enormous effects only thanks to lead, right. Even the whole lead in petrol thing is up in the air, we are not sure if it has made a difference. These issues are around poverty, not magical beans like evil 'lead'.
  - mirimir 11y ago
    The "magical bean" for lead paint is poor maintenance. There's also the perverse fact that flakes of old lead paint are sweet. So kids suck on them like candy. Especially if they're hungry. I do agree that poverty makes it worse.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    > Even the whole lead in petrol thing is up in the air, we are not sure if it has made a difference No, that's wrong. We know lead in petrol was very harmful to a lot of people. The thing that is "up in the air" is whether lead in petrol was responsible for increased crime rates, especially increased violent crime rate; and whether removing lead feom petrol was responsible for the reduction in crime rates. It's not an outlandish bizarre hypothesis because we know how harmful lead in atmosphere is.
abandonliberty 11y ago
[Citation really badly needed]

johnloeber 11y ago

What are you even saying? Lead is very well-established as a neurotoxin.

mirimir 11y ago

The epidemiology is solid. Some cohort studies ran for decades. They followed lead levels in blood and bone. They tested intelligence and documented behavior. They tracked educational and criminal history. The neonatal brain is exquisitely sensitive to lead.

aaron695 11y ago
And this is why juries don't work. It is probably banging my head against a brick wall, but seriously whole generations had lead based paint and lead products. Rich and poor. It's even in the water supply - http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2004/05/heavy_metal.html http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_exa... But these people with lawsuits had these enormous effects only thanks to lead, right. Even the whole lead in petrol thing is up in the air, we are not sure if it has made a difference. These issues are around poverty, not magical beans like evil 'lead'.
- mirimir 11y ago
  The "magical bean" for lead paint is poor maintenance. There's also the perverse fact that flakes of old lead paint are sweet. So kids suck on them like candy. Especially if they're hungry. I do agree that poverty makes it worse.
- DanBC 11y ago
  > Even the whole lead in petrol thing is up in the air, we are not sure if it has made a difference No, that's wrong. We know lead in petrol was very harmful to a lot of people. The thing that is "up in the air" is whether lead in petrol was responsible for increased crime rates, especially increased violent crime rate; and whether removing lead feom petrol was responsible for the reduction in crime rates. It's not an outlandish bizarre hypothesis because we know how harmful lead in atmosphere is.

abandonliberty 11y ago

[Citation really badly needed]