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We used to say the same thing about application software. However Chrome's auto-update feature has been a tremendous benefit. I would argue this is a reasonable

We used to say the same thing about application software. However Chrome's auto-update feature has been a tremendous benefit. I would argue this is a reasonable direction for consumer OSes to go

nickspacek 11y ago
Chrome's auto-update is barely noticeable and quite polite, in that it doesn't nag you to restart (or forcibly shut down your current work). Doesn't stop you from shutting it down and barely slows down the next time it starts.
frik 11y ago
A browser is one thing, it's just an application. The OS is the lowest layer, if you can't control it, you can't trust it. And there is always the option to stop the update in Chrome. If you don't run the OS behind a hardware firewall that can scramble SSL, Win10 will send a lot of data unfiltered and non-optional to its vendor - unacceptable for an operating system (the lowest layer).
- sliverstorm 11y ago
  if you can't control it, you can't trust it Exactly, which is why Microsoft and enterprise IT like to control the updates. If they can't control the updates, they can't trust the computer! Unpatched, dated, or even EoL OS versions has been a big problem for a long time, and it's arguably even more serious of an issue than dated versions of Chrome. You want that control for yourself, and I can relate to that, but 99% of users cannot be trusted with that control which is why this happened.
  - frik 11y ago
    Exactly, which is why Microsoft and enterprise IT like to control the updates Neither enterprise IT nor consumers can control it, do you get it? Only with the very expensive "Enterprise Long Term Servicing Branch" License, which only a small group of large corporations will be able to license. No other operating system exists that behave in such a way. It's a "Windows as a Service", but many still want a traditional onprimise Windows, the same goes for all other Microsoft software incl. Office and Sharepoint.
    - yuhong 11y ago
      Not true, any company who buys Win10 Enterprise with Software Assurance using volume licensing (minimum order is only 5 units) can get access.

We used to say the same thing about application software. However Chrome's auto-update feature has been a tremendous benefit. I would argue this is a reasonable direction for consumer OSes to go

nickspacek 11y ago

Chrome's auto-update is barely noticeable and quite polite, in that it doesn't nag you to restart (or forcibly shut down your current work). Doesn't stop you from shutting it down and barely slows down the next time it starts.

frik 11y ago

A browser is one thing, it's just an application. The OS is the lowest layer, if you can't control it, you can't trust it. And there is always the option to stop the update in Chrome. If you don't run the OS behind a hardware firewall that can scramble SSL, Win10 will send a lot of data unfiltered and non-optional to its vendor - unacceptable for an operating system (the lowest layer).

sliverstorm 11y ago
if you can't control it, you can't trust it Exactly, which is why Microsoft and enterprise IT like to control the updates. If they can't control the updates, they can't trust the computer! Unpatched, dated, or even EoL OS versions has been a big problem for a long time, and it's arguably even more serious of an issue than dated versions of Chrome. You want that control for yourself, and I can relate to that, but 99% of users cannot be trusted with that control which is why this happened.
- frik 11y ago
  Exactly, which is why Microsoft and enterprise IT like to control the updates Neither enterprise IT nor consumers can control it, do you get it? Only with the very expensive "Enterprise Long Term Servicing Branch" License, which only a small group of large corporations will be able to license. No other operating system exists that behave in such a way. It's a "Windows as a Service", but many still want a traditional onprimise Windows, the same goes for all other Microsoft software incl. Office and Sharepoint.
  - yuhong 11y ago
    Not true, any company who buys Win10 Enterprise with Software Assurance using volume licensing (minimum order is only 5 units) can get access.