> The interesting bit here is that modern viruses don't ever make themselves known. Not disagreeing with your main point, but this bit is a bit statistically w

> The interesting bit here is that modern viruses don't ever make themselves known. Not disagreeing with your main point, but this bit is a bit statistically wrong, in my experience. (See also my comment downthread, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10118516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10118516) We see a lot more malware that is obvious -- or, would be to a more technically savvy user -- and a lot less malware that's being really sneaky. But there is still a lot of sneaky malware and to the extent that you're saying that people shouldn't trust that they aren't infected just because they aren't noticing anything out of the ordinary, you're completely right.