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Cortana is not an essential part of the OS. Malware databases can exist locally. You're just making excuses for MS's anti-privacy architecture.

by joesmo 11y ago

UK-AL 11y ago
Lots of apple, and google features are not essential part of the system. Shall we turn siri off by default? "Malware databases can exist locally" - You still have to download, and upload definitions. This is what windows defender does. People still complain about that. It's not that I'm not concerned about privacy. It's the hypocritical nature of people. It only becomes a big issue when Microsoft does it. Anyone else, very little complaints.
- joesmo 11y ago
  Yes, I think Siri should be off by default. Malware databases can be updated when the user updates everything else. The reason people are complaining is that this data is being sent automatically by the OS without their permission or knowledge. It's not just a complaint against MS, but also against other OS's that do the same like Android.
- kuschku 11y ago
  The difference is: In one case, you download the whole database. In the other case, you essentially tell the company "hey, I’m visiting website with hash 12345, is that bad?". This can be abused. Google could with it create a database of everyone who visit, say, pornhub.com, for example, by logging everyone who visits a page with the same hash as pornhub.com Same with file-based malware databases: You tell it "I have the file with hash 12345, is it bad?" And, if Google - or the NSA, CIA, FBI, whatever – want to get a list of everyone who has that file, they just ask the database provider to log everyone who checks that hash against the database, then go to the ISP to get the real name of the owner of that IP, and then SWAT the person. This is very much a possible risk.
Raphmedia 11y ago
My personal computer is not a phone. I do not require the help of a spyware disguised as an AI to operate it. I have a mouse and a full keyboard. When I want to interact with the internet, I use a browser. This browser is managed by many extensions that cut down on the information that is being sent about me. I do not want my operating system to talk to the internet without asking me.
- joesmo 11y ago
  Well put. That's exactly my feeling. Even on a phone, a voice based helper should be opt-in as it's not an essential feature and not everyone wants to use it, but everyone wants to not be recorded by default.

Cortana is not an essential part of the OS. Malware databases can exist locally. You're just making excuses for MS's anti-privacy architecture.

by joesmo 11y ago

Cortana is not an essential part of the OS. Malware databases can exist locally. You're just making excuses for MS's anti-privacy architecture.

UK-AL 11y ago

Lots of apple, and google features are not essential part of the system. Shall we turn siri off by default? "Malware databases can exist locally" - You still have to download, and upload definitions. This is what windows defender does. People still complain about that. It's not that I'm not concerned about privacy. It's the hypocritical nature of people. It only becomes a big issue when Microsoft does it. Anyone else, very little complaints.

joesmo 11y ago
Yes, I think Siri should be off by default. Malware databases can be updated when the user updates everything else. The reason people are complaining is that this data is being sent automatically by the OS without their permission or knowledge. It's not just a complaint against MS, but also against other OS's that do the same like Android.
kuschku 11y ago
The difference is: In one case, you download the whole database. In the other case, you essentially tell the company "hey, I’m visiting website with hash 12345, is that bad?". This can be abused. Google could with it create a database of everyone who visit, say, pornhub.com, for example, by logging everyone who visits a page with the same hash as pornhub.com Same with file-based malware databases: You tell it "I have the file with hash 12345, is it bad?" And, if Google - or the NSA, CIA, FBI, whatever – want to get a list of everyone who has that file, they just ask the database provider to log everyone who checks that hash against the database, then go to the ISP to get the real name of the owner of that IP, and then SWAT the person. This is very much a possible risk.

Raphmedia 11y ago

My personal computer is not a phone. I do not require the help of a spyware disguised as an AI to operate it. I have a mouse and a full keyboard. When I want to interact with the internet, I use a browser. This browser is managed by many extensions that cut down on the information that is being sent about me. I do not want my operating system to talk to the internet without asking me.

joesmo 11y ago
Well put. That's exactly my feeling. Even on a phone, a voice based helper should be opt-in as it's not an essential feature and not everyone wants to use it, but everyone wants to not be recorded by default.