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Dismaland – Bemusement Park
- spodek 11y agoNot that I know many artists, but Banksy shows over and over that he's the best living artist. His work is funny, poignant, expressive, imaginative, and shows up in the most incredible places, from Gaza to a big installation a couple blocks from my home once. Sometimes I see articles on ads, privacy, debates between public and private use of spaces, surveillance, and such, and, as fond as I am of clear, precise language, I find Banksy's artistic statements are more clear and meaningful that what I read in mainstream media.
- CatsoCatsoCatso 11y agoIt should be noted (a lot of people have missed this) that not all the works there are from Banksy himself but rather a large range of artists. nearly 60 artists including Banksy are exhibiting work http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/aug/21/banksy-dismaland-graffiti-art-market-capitalism-creativity http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/aug/21/banksy-d...
- spacemanmatt 11y agoMany installations are familiar from Burning Man
- drzaiusapelord 11y agoSo, he's become the employer/corporation he regularly criticizes? What's his net worth now? I read its in the millions. So, how much do you pay him to tell you how terrible the world of commerce is? Why does the completely ridiculous and unbelievably commercial world of fine art get a free pass here? Also, criticizing Disney? Talk about unoriginal attacks and low hanging fruit. What's next? A big expose on McDonalds? Banksy looks like the kind of art you're into when you finally leave home from college and pretend you're this self-liberated rebel with all the answers. I imagine most of his fans will look back onto his cookie-cutter anti-authoritianism and cringe once they get older and realize they, yes, they are the "establishment" he's laughing at, all the way to the bank.
- hiou 11y agoThe piece on the events page[1] is Josh Keyes[2]. Another artist that hasn't done anything new in years. It makes me chuckle when artists that claim to be so anti-corporate practice exactly the same techniques of brand management to inflate their bank accounts. [1] http://dismaland.co.uk/events/ http://dismaland.co.uk/events/ [2] http://www.joshkeyes.net/ http://www.joshkeyes.net/ PS. I'm not calling them out on hypocrisy, but instead on spending the latter 2/3rds of their careers cashing in as opposed to taking a risk and pushing their work forward. EDIT: I do not recall much of Josh Keyes' work being anti-corporate in case the wording above appears to sound like I'm saying that. With him is just the typical unoriginal sameness over the last 10 years.
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- sambeau 11y agoThe small print made me laugh The following are strictly prohibited in the Park – spray paint, marker pens, knives and legal representatives of the Walt Disney Corporation. (although there is an argument of hypocrisy against their ban on spray paint)
- celticninja 11y agoI imagine the while thing is tongue in cheek.
- sambeau 11y agoAlmost certainly. However, I wonder if there may also be an issue with tagging at something like this?
- spacemanmatt 11y agoIt's a private venue. I don't see tagging art at a private show as similar to tagging something permanent like a building in a public space.
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- rangibaby 11y agoThe goatse.cx lawyer has informed us that we need a warning! So.. if you are under the age of 18 or find this photograph offensive, please don't look at it. Thank you!
- lighthawk 11y agoI'd be there for the music and maybe to see the art if I lived in the area. Suggest providing good beer, wine, mixed drinks, and food trucks or similar food merchants along with some affordable art and t-shirts, since it is an art festival of sorts. The logo, similarity of the name, and Cinderella's castle spell trouble with Disney folks. It'd be one thing if it were local, but since it got press, that's just asking for it. Economist article: http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2015/08/anti-establishment-art http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2015/08/anti-establi... CNN style article with video of the inside: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/20/arts/banksy-dismaland-art-exhibition/index.html http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/20/arts/banksy-dismaland-art-... Many more photos tweeted with #Dismaland here: https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dismaland?src=hash https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dismaland?src=hash The castle there looks amazing, and so does some of the other art. Good luck!
- simonswords82 11y agoIf I recall correctly the show is only on until the end of September so I doubt Disney will have time to do much about it before it shuts down.
- chillydawg 11y agoImagine the hilarity if they sued? They'd be caricaturing themselves in the best possible way. It would be spectacular to watch.
- celticninja 11y agoPretty certain it would fall under parody/satire so would be protected use, plus given that Banksy is well known around the world I don't see this staying under the radar at all given that the BBC has already covered it. Plus all the commercialisation you suggest would pretty much be the antithesis of what the event sets out to poke fun at.
- joosters 11y agoUK parody laws are not the same as the US. For a start, there wasn't a clear parody defence until around October 2014: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29408121 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29408121 However, that law has since been (at least partially) quashed by recent court rulings: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/17/high-court-quashes-regulations-copy-cds-musicians http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/17/high-court-qu... (It's unclear if the whole of the law is now revoked, or just the personal-use parts)
- LeonigMig 11y agoI went yesterday.. here's my Tweet review: https://twitter.com/jgumbley/status/635895637503025152 https://twitter.com/jgumbley/status/635895637503025152 Recommend, especially for the Gallery. My favourite part was most people there were "normal" people and absolutely loved it. I've been to i.e. Damian Hurst / White Cube / Rothko etc. etc. London poseurs everywhere. Art that connects.
- badart 11y ago>My favourite part was most people there were "normal" people and absolutely loved it. Why wouldn't they? In your tweet you praise the project as "inclusive" but that is exactly how I would condemn it. Banksy seem to me to be an artist who through iteration has arrived at a near-perfect way of packaging 1960s-inspired rebellion for the summer blockbuster audience. The average summer blockbuster makes you feel exhilarated while you watch it but doesn't have a serious takeaway. For Banksy "exhilarated" is replaced with "clever" and "righteous" but the end result is the equally empty. There is a wide gap between the poles that are poseur-inviting nihilism of Hurst and Banksy's Upworthy-like quality. I think good art should not stand too close to either of them.
- meo2 11y agoHirst
- retube 11y agowebhosting dismal too, takes about 2 minutes to load. Hopefully deliberate!
- ChazDazzle 11y ago"Banksy's now ubiquitous anti-consumerist and anti-authoritarian tropes are fully exhausted in this most recent packaging and Dismaland is, quite literally, art about nothing. Consumerism is bad, Disney is evil, advertising is dishonest — we got it." http://www.businessinsider.com/banksys-dismaland-is-bad-and-boring-2015-8#ixzz3jpTFmyxr http://www.businessinsider.com/banksys-dismaland-is-bad-and-... He's getting mocked pretty bad on Tumblr too, which is notable considering how popular pictures of his work have been on there in the past.
- celticninja 11y agoPeople on tumblr probably don't realise when they are using a Banksy picture, much like they assumed daft punk ripped of Kanye West with harder better faster stronger or that Kanye was helping out an undiscovered musician when he partnered up with Paul McCartney.
- octo_t 11y agoI feel like you wildly missed the point of the jokes about kanye...
- spacemanmatt 11y agoMaybe people near you thought it was funny, but there were a lot of people seriously unaware about Daft Punk or McCartney.
- madaxe_again 11y agoWell of course BI are mocking it - their audience is the target of his ire.
- roymurdock 11y agoKids Enclosure Strictly for the little ones – an area that combines soft play and loan shop. This is fantastic. I wish I were in the UK for its 5 week run.
- estefan 11y agoTicket sales are now available again: http://dismaland.seetickets.com/tour/dismaland http://dismaland.seetickets.com/tour/dismaland
- vixen99 11y agoSeems a lot of effort for very little in the way of amusement or indeed much else.
- iNate2000 11y ago"Bemusement"
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- br3w5 11y agoLooks like a good exhibition - I'd go if I could get over to Weston-Super-Mare easily...I never liked the big hype around Banksy but did like seeing his work when it appeared. And there are other really good artists there too (ones I prefer to Banksy). PS. Mike Nudelman clearly doesn't get it
- oldmanjay 11y agohow much does one have to pay banksy to hear the anti-corporate message?
- pidg 11y ago£3
- sctb 11y agoPreviously discussed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10093074 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10093074