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You'll find plenty of other losers if you apply the same criterion: Belgium was constantly invaded by friends from all sides. Germany never had the dominant wor

by gbog 11y ago

You'll find plenty of other losers if you apply the same criterion: Belgium was constantly invaded by friends from all sides. Germany never had the dominant worldwide position it deserved. Poland is, well you know this story... China was three, four times defeated and ruled for centuries by small tribes of illiterate horsemen. All Africa is a mess, and South America too. Even the allmighty American Dream magic powder do not sell that well anymore. I would stop complaining about Russia's past and move forward, if I can share my thoughts. (Just think 2 mn about what it means to be a German nowadays, you'll see how the mud is much uglier on the other side)

guard-of-terra 11y ago
The problem is, we can't move forward. We're stuck. As a society we're so deep in blame shifting and ressentiment that no progress is possible. Visible in Putin's and parliament members' rhetoric who instead of trying to find solutions choose to blame circumstances and everybody else in the world and vocally return to traditions banana coocooland where every problem is inexistent. Oh, and also blame your fellow co-citizens for being agents of the enemy, defeatists, saboteurs and sources of the problems being discussed. They get away with this because the seed finds fertile soil. To be a German is to be enjoying good beers on top of the best industrial complex in the world, having long admitted mistakes of the past and moved on. Russians infinitely return to mistakes of the past trying to revise history, find somebody else to blame or try to repeat those. Five years ago I thought that we are moving, but then whole country just hit the brakes.
- gbog 11y ago
  Hem, that's not so easy for the Germans. If only it was a mere "mistake" you can "admit and move on"... It is a crime against humanity that will never be forgotten, may I remind you. And German beer tastes like piss, if you ask me (I'm Belgian for beers).
  - dvfjsdhgfv 11y ago
    > Hem, that's not so easy for the Germans. If only it was a mere "mistake" you can "admit and move on"... It is a crime against humanity that will never be forgotten, may I remind you. I beg to differ - both world wars belong now to the past century, and as more and more years pass by and their witnesses die, these atrocities belong more and more to history books along the Napoleon wars etc., being no more part of the modern story than other horrors of the past. What kind of relation exist between an average young German and the Nazi war machine? Even if someone had an SS officer in the family, they're likely to just feel ashamed and eliminate it from their memory, that's all.

by gbog 11y ago

guard-of-terra 11y ago

The problem is, we can't move forward. We're stuck. As a society we're so deep in blame shifting and ressentiment that no progress is possible. Visible in Putin's and parliament members' rhetoric who instead of trying to find solutions choose to blame circumstances and everybody else in the world and vocally return to traditions banana coocooland where every problem is inexistent. Oh, and also blame your fellow co-citizens for being agents of the enemy, defeatists, saboteurs and sources of the problems being discussed. They get away with this because the seed finds fertile soil. To be a German is to be enjoying good beers on top of the best industrial complex in the world, having long admitted mistakes of the past and moved on. Russians infinitely return to mistakes of the past trying to revise history, find somebody else to blame or try to repeat those. Five years ago I thought that we are moving, but then whole country just hit the brakes.

gbog 11y ago
Hem, that's not so easy for the Germans. If only it was a mere "mistake" you can "admit and move on"... It is a crime against humanity that will never be forgotten, may I remind you. And German beer tastes like piss, if you ask me (I'm Belgian for beers).
- dvfjsdhgfv 11y ago
  > Hem, that's not so easy for the Germans. If only it was a mere "mistake" you can "admit and move on"... It is a crime against humanity that will never be forgotten, may I remind you. I beg to differ - both world wars belong now to the past century, and as more and more years pass by and their witnesses die, these atrocities belong more and more to history books along the Napoleon wars etc., being no more part of the modern story than other horrors of the past. What kind of relation exist between an average young German and the Nazi war machine? Even if someone had an SS officer in the family, they're likely to just feel ashamed and eliminate it from their memory, that's all.