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Techcrunch missed a very interesting point about Roscomnadzors tactic here - they actually bothered to get a court order! [1] This is not something they normall
by sologoub 11y ago
Techcrunch missed a very interesting point about Roscomnadzors tactic here - they actually bothered to get a court order! [1] This is not something they normally do or, I think, are even required under the laws they tend to us in such cases.
The sad part is that the way that legal regime works, they are following the letter of the law and the general populous is not likely to object, since the article covers content related to a controlled substance, and since Soviet times, controlled substances carry heavy stigma, especially among older generations.
[1] http://m.lenta.ru/news/2015/08/24/wiki/ http://m.lenta.ru/news/2015/08/24/wiki/ (sorry in Russian)
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- osipov 11y agoThis is typical of the coverage we got with blocking of github and reddit. Very much a knee-jerk reaction with little understanding of the Russian laws and procedures. Of course, it is a mistake to expect otherwise. The problem is that an average reader will come away with an impression: "those backwards Russians are censoring the internet again!"
- hyperpape 11y agoI hope you realize we don't care whose laws they are--we regard that censorship as illegitimate. There's nationalism and chauvinism aplenty, but many of those you'll find criticizing Russia on this point frequently condemn our own governments when they veer into censorship.
- osipov 11y ago>we don't care whose laws they are--we regard that censorship as illegitimate who's we? regardless of who you are, your regard of censorship by Russians in Russia is illegitimate. you are a bystander passing judgement, you are not an elected representative of the Russian people. an elected government in Russia made laws establishing the legal process governing this situation. your opinion is interesting but ultimately irrelevant to the problem. those who live and vote in Russia and have a voice on this thread are far more relevant to the discussion than you are.
- narrowrail 11y agoDo you realize where this site is hosted, who owns it, and where the majority of its participants come from? I can only assume the 'we' mentioned is the great many of the HNers who do not like censorship by any country, no matter how nationalistic some of its citizens are.
- schoen 11y agoI guess this suggests that your question about whether people deny countries have the right to censor things probably was rhetorical. Well, I guess you've noticed that a lot of people here don't agree, and think there's a kind of inherent illegitimacy around most information restrictions, maybe regardless of where they come from. This kind of disagreement seems pretty intractable. :-(
- guard-of-terra 11y agoNobody blames Roscomnadzor too much - not much more than sorry fellows who dug the graves for people killed in concentration camps. The current illegitimate parliament is to blame. Being appointed to their chairs by Putin's grey cardinals instead of popular vote, they did every thing to please the dictator. Probably won't get any punishment for that other than karmic rebirth into a frog in their next life.
- osipov 11y ago@guard-of-terra please take your "self-hating Russian" schtick elsewhere. your comments don't belong on hacker news.
- dang 11y agoYou're being downvoted because you've crossed inappropriately into personal attacks. Please don't do that here. On HN, when someone is wrong, politely show how they are wrong. If you feel too provoked to be able to do that, it's best to wait until you can.
- dang 11y agoYour many comments in this thread are provocative to the point of trolling and then some. Please stop.