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Generate buzz, get bought, never produce anything.

by analognoise 11y ago

knz42 11y ago
Patents count I believe ;)
- kjs3 11y ago
  Generate buzz, file patents, get bought, never produce anything.
kinghajj 11y ago
They've publicly stated that they intend to produce their own chips, though. Regarding licensing the architecture (a la ARM), Ivan said during a talk that Intel's quarterly dividend was as much as ARM's yearly revenue. So I don't think that selling the entire company is even on their radar right now, unless you're really cynical and doubt that declared intention.
kjs3 11y ago
You forgot "have a legion of sycophants/sockpuppets that systematically downmod any post that's less than a furious jerkoff over how amazing Mill is".
- chc 11y ago
  It's a middlebrow dismissal. It should be downvoted. That's not sycophancy, it's just Hacker News' losing battle to keep the conversation stimulating and worthwhile.
  - kjs3 11y ago
    I guess if your definition of "stimulating and worthwhile" is "uncritical fawning", then I can understand your support of downmodding anything critical. Thanks for the confirmation of my original suspicion.
    - analognoise 11y ago
      I agree - an entirely new architecture with nothing to speak for it (no FPGA code to try it out, no production chips, just paper this, paper that). I'm much more impressed by Risc-V - it exists in a format you can actually use.
      - kjs3 11y ago
        Yup...the RISC-V folks have a working, open source, ~1GHz processor. That runs real software. Today. But what do they know? Mill has...videos. And patent applications. A strong social media presence. And a simulator that they really, really promise you'll be able to use real soon now and is going to totally own everything. And they're going to fab the chips themselves, long after everyone but Intel figured out that was stupid. Or something. Because that sort of "we have the off-the-wall architecture that will change fucking everything in computing forever" attitude worked so well for the iAPX432, Transputer, Rekursiv, i860, everything Chuck Moore has ever done, TI9900, most (not all) things called VLIW, etc." Right? Best of all? A completely uncritical, fawning audience on HN.

Generate buzz, get bought, never produce anything.

knz42 11y ago

Patents count I believe ;)

kjs3 11y ago
Generate buzz, file patents, get bought, never produce anything.

kinghajj 11y ago

They've publicly stated that they intend to produce their own chips, though. Regarding licensing the architecture (a la ARM), Ivan said during a talk that Intel's quarterly dividend was as much as ARM's yearly revenue. So I don't think that selling the entire company is even on their radar right now, unless you're really cynical and doubt that declared intention.

kjs3 11y ago

You forgot "have a legion of sycophants/sockpuppets that systematically downmod any post that's less than a furious jerkoff over how amazing Mill is".

chc 11y ago
It's a middlebrow dismissal. It should be downvoted. That's not sycophancy, it's just Hacker News' losing battle to keep the conversation stimulating and worthwhile.
- kjs3 11y ago
  I guess if your definition of "stimulating and worthwhile" is "uncritical fawning", then I can understand your support of downmodding anything critical. Thanks for the confirmation of my original suspicion.
  - analognoise 11y ago
    I agree - an entirely new architecture with nothing to speak for it (no FPGA code to try it out, no production chips, just paper this, paper that). I'm much more impressed by Risc-V - it exists in a format you can actually use.
    - kjs3 11y ago
      Yup...the RISC-V folks have a working, open source, ~1GHz processor. That runs real software. Today. But what do they know? Mill has...videos. And patent applications. A strong social media presence. And a simulator that they really, really promise you'll be able to use real soon now and is going to totally own everything. And they're going to fab the chips themselves, long after everyone but Intel figured out that was stupid. Or something. Because that sort of "we have the off-the-wall architecture that will change fucking everything in computing forever" attitude worked so well for the iAPX432, Transputer, Rekursiv, i860, everything Chuck Moore has ever done, TI9900, most (not all) things called VLIW, etc." Right? Best of all? A completely uncritical, fawning audience on HN.