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It would be interesting to see what someone knowledgable would report back on by taking something like zynamics bindiff onto pre- and post this KB.

by 0x0 11y ago

acqq 11y ago
I've never seen the proof of the claims from the article discussed here three days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10099180 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10099180 "Information transmitted: All text typed on the keyboard is stored in temporary files, and sent (once per 30 mins) to: oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net pre.footprintpredict.com reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com" On another side, MSFT never issued the statement what they actually collect, probably because their lawyers will need a month or two to clear that up. If the quote is true, it's a real full-blown keylogger. It's hard to believe. But there should be the pressure to find out the truth. The worst thing is that it seems the users also don't care. Do read kstrauser's top post in this discussion regarding automatic snooping of kids and emailing the parents, implemented by MSFT in Windows 10. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10111271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10111271 He posted the snapshot later. Unbelievable. But it seems they really do this. Built in spying, then sending reports by e-mail.
- morganvachon 11y ago
  I've noticed recently that I'll get a weekly e-mail from Microsoft showing my "week in review", with inline copies of photos I took with my phone and uploaded to OneDrive (I have 1TB of space with OneDrive thanks to an O365 account). This just started a few weeks ago. So, Microsoft is not only rifling through the contents of my OneDrive camera roll, they are then transmitting the photos to my email unencrypted, without ever asking me to opt in to this service. I used to praise Microsoft for being opt-in as opposed to Google's opt-out; I guess that's all out the window now (no pun intended). I guess it's finally time to flip the switch on the OwnCloud account I've been testing and drop OneDrive.
  - smeehee 11y ago
    This seems loosely equivalent to Google's account activity mail, but with invade-by-default. I can see it being useful, though, despite the flaws which you describe. Also – potentially – incredibly dangerous, as other posters mention. I don't think that we can have the possibility of one without the possibility of the other here.
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It would be interesting to see what someone knowledgable would report back on by taking something like zynamics bindiff onto pre- and post this KB.

by 0x0 11y ago

It would be interesting to see what someone knowledgable would report back on by taking something like zynamics bindiff onto pre- and post this KB.

acqq 11y ago

I've never seen the proof of the claims from the article discussed here three days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10099180 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10099180 "Information transmitted: All text typed on the keyboard is stored in temporary files, and sent (once per 30 mins) to: oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net pre.footprintpredict.com reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com" On another side, MSFT never issued the statement what they actually collect, probably because their lawyers will need a month or two to clear that up. If the quote is true, it's a real full-blown keylogger. It's hard to believe. But there should be the pressure to find out the truth. The worst thing is that it seems the users also don't care. Do read kstrauser's top post in this discussion regarding automatic snooping of kids and emailing the parents, implemented by MSFT in Windows 10. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10111271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10111271 He posted the snapshot later. Unbelievable. But it seems they really do this. Built in spying, then sending reports by e-mail.

morganvachon 11y ago
I've noticed recently that I'll get a weekly e-mail from Microsoft showing my "week in review", with inline copies of photos I took with my phone and uploaded to OneDrive (I have 1TB of space with OneDrive thanks to an O365 account). This just started a few weeks ago. So, Microsoft is not only rifling through the contents of my OneDrive camera roll, they are then transmitting the photos to my email unencrypted, without ever asking me to opt in to this service. I used to praise Microsoft for being opt-in as opposed to Google's opt-out; I guess that's all out the window now (no pun intended). I guess it's finally time to flip the switch on the OwnCloud account I've been testing and drop OneDrive.
- smeehee 11y ago
  This seems loosely equivalent to Google's account activity mail, but with invade-by-default. I can see it being useful, though, despite the flaws which you describe. Also – potentially – incredibly dangerous, as other posters mention. I don't think that we can have the possibility of one without the possibility of the other here.

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