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I think it's time that we don't ask of users to protect themselves by reading hundreds of pages of EULAs, and then ostracising themselves from mainstream electr
by IkmoIkmo 11y ago
I think it's time that we don't ask of users to protect themselves by reading hundreds of pages of EULAs, and then ostracising themselves from mainstream electronics use (both at home, as well as at work) because they refuse to use software that's loaded with insane levels of spyware (record and transfer all voice and every keystroke). That's a large burden. It's perhaps time this becomes a legal matter rather than purely a user-choice matter.
In society we have all kinds of protections for people that make a lot of sense, that take away individual responsibility. For example, even if a person wanted, you're not allowed to become a slave, it's simply not allowed. Even if a person wanted in most of the developed world, you're not allowed to work for less than minimum wage, or in a toxic environment. Similarly even if a person says 'I don't mind if people are misogynistic towards me at work, or discriminatory, I just want this job no matter what because I need the money', that's not allowed, either.
Similarly, I think it's time we start to think of legal protections again this level of spyware. We shouldn't put the burden of acceptance on individuals when you'll have millions of people who'd prefer to live in a world where they don't have to use this software at home or at work, but have no choice (particularly at work), and thus accept spyware because the loss of their job works as a blackmailing force, just like in the above examples.
That doesn't mean I'm saying there is no legal place for software like this under any conditions. But the notion that it can't be turned off is insane. Even 'on by default' is a step too far, but now Windows is saying whether you use windows 7, 8 or 10, we're spying on you, and you can't turn it off, and if you tamper with our software manually you'll fail because we've hardcoded it. That's not acceptable and my point is, it shouldn't fall upon users to boycott such harmful parts of software they paid for (in the case of Windows 7, half a decade ago).
It should fall upon the rule of law to prevent this and allow at least an opt-in, a choice, a choice that isn't 'use any Windows product, or use no Windows product'
If OSs were more free like say, the automotive industry, I wouldn't mind as much. Like if Toyota one day decided to record audio in cars, that's one thing. You can switch to more than a dozen top-quality car manufacturers who don't do this, and it wouldn't affect your jobs or anything like that. But we're talking about a desktop/laptop market where <2% of marketshare is Linux and OS X is ~10%, the remainder is virtually all windows and its got hardcoded spyware features.
- SixSigma 11y agoMy UK govt. is trying the backdoor / ban all encryption and is complicit in our "security services" getting unfettered access to citizen data. As was the previous govt. And all govts before it, and all govts in all countries. Getting them to enact and defend the opposite will take a Herculean effort to make the citizens aware, let alone care. I despair.
- makecheck 11y agoThere are a few practical issues to solve first. Rules must apply over time. A "turn everything off" request shouldn't be able to transform into "except these new on-by-default features added in patch 1.01". Software has bugs, including "off switches"; as such, even if there appears to be a way to shut everything off, I always assume that these may fail. The "over time" problem applies here, too; a year from now, some poor new guy tasked with maintaining these protection switches might screw up an update and break an off-switch that used to work fine. Information is currently too valuable. As a society we really have to get to the point where the value of bits of data is so low that leaks don't matter. We sure as heck shouldn't have ways for criminals to screw you by knowing a single number that belongs to you! Information is inherently hard to protect. Photos are very hard to protect; even if you had a new file format, encryption, low-level hardware that was physically incapable of accessing pixels without a key, memory that could not cache plain-data versions of the image, etc. there is still an easy way for someone to take out an iPhone and snap a copy of what they see on their screen and keep it forever. True photo security would practically require what is mandated for photocopiers with respect to counterfeiting; all cameras and all displays would have to be equally mandated to use watermarked images that encode encryption keys (e.g. your camera can only take a picture of another image if the associated key is one that has granted you access). And of course, that level of assurance could also be abused. Ideally the average citizen would be able to grant and revoke keys for any and all organizations like Facebook or Microsoft, and systems and formats would be such that information is impossible to use once a key expires or has been revoked.