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The author claims that Chrome and other desktop browsers will be revoking all Flash support. Like it or not, the opposite is happening. Flash is directly integr

by stevenh 11y ago

The author claims that Chrome and other desktop browsers will be revoking all Flash support. Like it or not, the opposite is happening. Flash is directly integrated into Microsoft Edge. Google has also doubled down on supporting the Flash plugin in Chrome for the long haul; they continue to enthusiastically cooperate with Adobe to write code to improve the plugin. http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/07/significant-flash-exploit-mitigations_16.html http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2015/07/significant-fl... Adobe has no intention of ever announcing an EOL for Flash. People only think to use "EOL" and "Flash" in the same sentence because Alex Stamos made a melodramatic tweet during the uncomfortable 48 hour timespan between the world becoming aware of the existence of Hacking Team's 0-day and Adobe releasing a patch to fix it.

jeromegv 11y ago
Doesn't really matter that some desktop browser are still supporting it, with mobile traffic getting bigger every year, there isn't any use case for any typical website to support it.
- koonsolo 11y ago
  Flash supports desktop websites using Flash Player, and mobile through Adobe AIR. You are right there is no use case to support mobile browsers, because you can deliver your Flash application/game straight as an app on mobile platforms.
  - jeromegv 11y ago
    If you're looking to ship an app, sure. What this article is about are actual websites that use Flash in videos (non-games). When 40% of your traffic on your actual website is from mobile, it doesn't matter if Flash is available as mobile apps, it still won't run on your site.
justwannasing 11y ago
Never, EVER use a Microsoft browser as a reference for how things should work! As far as Adobe is concerned, they stopped development of Flash on mobile and recommends switching to HTML5 video/audio so don't think Adobe is still head over heels about Flash. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204358004577027923205009352 http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240529702043580045770279...
- nine_k 11y ago
  This is not about how things should work, this is about how things are going to actually work for a number of desktop / laptop users, with Chrome and a Microsoft-supplied browser being the two top choices. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
  - justwannasing 11y ago
    Again, if you are going to follow Microsoft as a leader, you're following the wrong dog. Never, EVER, use Microsoft browsers as a reference.
pier25 11y ago
> Adobe has no intention of ever announcing an EOL for Flash That's irrelevant, Adobe is known for keeping dead products afloat. The Flash platform is gracefully becoming another Director or Cold Fusion which are still being sold.
pix64 11y ago
Mozilla is not planning on supporting any addons other than Flash in 64-bit Firefox

by stevenh 11y ago

jeromegv 11y ago

Doesn't really matter that some desktop browser are still supporting it, with mobile traffic getting bigger every year, there isn't any use case for any typical website to support it.

koonsolo 11y ago
Flash supports desktop websites using Flash Player, and mobile through Adobe AIR. You are right there is no use case to support mobile browsers, because you can deliver your Flash application/game straight as an app on mobile platforms.
- jeromegv 11y ago
  If you're looking to ship an app, sure. What this article is about are actual websites that use Flash in videos (non-games). When 40% of your traffic on your actual website is from mobile, it doesn't matter if Flash is available as mobile apps, it still won't run on your site.

justwannasing 11y ago

Never, EVER use a Microsoft browser as a reference for how things should work! As far as Adobe is concerned, they stopped development of Flash on mobile and recommends switching to HTML5 video/audio so don't think Adobe is still head over heels about Flash. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204358004577027923205009352 http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240529702043580045770279...

nine_k 11y ago
This is not about how things should work, this is about how things are going to actually work for a number of desktop / laptop users, with Chrome and a Microsoft-supplied browser being the two top choices. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
- justwannasing 11y ago
  Again, if you are going to follow Microsoft as a leader, you're following the wrong dog. Never, EVER, use Microsoft browsers as a reference.

pier25 11y ago

> Adobe has no intention of ever announcing an EOL for Flash That's irrelevant, Adobe is known for keeping dead products afloat. The Flash platform is gracefully becoming another Director or Cold Fusion which are still being sold.

pix64 11y ago

Mozilla is not planning on supporting any addons other than Flash in 64-bit Firefox