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Immediately, somebody should begin a study on the impact of this data leak. Millions of cheaters exposed? What will be the increase in counseling? Divorce rate?

Immediately, somebody should begin a study on the impact of this data leak. Millions of cheaters exposed? What will be the increase in counseling? Divorce rate? What percentage of folks will carry on like nothing has happened? It's an incredible story. I'm not sure the English language has a word to describe this: watching millions of people go through marital pain all at the same time. It's not a train wreck -- you can watch that and see that there are real people suffering. This is all just some huge faceless mob. I am reminded of Stalin's quote: when one man dies, it's a tragedy. When a million men die, it's a statistic. (I absolutely do not approve of lying and cheating on spouses. I will not keep your secret for you. But I also do not approve on taking action that would result in folks I do not know getting exposed. Folks have a right to their own lives.)

NotOscarWilde 11y ago
> But I also do not approve on taking action that would result in folks I do not know getting exposed. Folks have a right to their own lives. I do not think there is such a right, because what you are describing is (in probably many cases) a right to break an agreement (marriage in this case) and keep pretending that you honor it until you yourself disclose it. In simpler terms: you may have "a right to your own life", but do you have a right to lie to your partner?
- TDL 11y ago
  Do you have right? Yes. Should you lie to your partner? Probably not. People have the right to do many things, even if those things are not beneficial to them in the long term.
  - true_religion 11y ago
    This isn't just an issue of lying or not lying to their partner. Many people may have already worked out the cheating issue with their partners, and put themselves past it. However, now their friends and coworkers and neighbors can pretty easily search to see if they're in the dump. Not because they need to know... just because they're curious. I don't think these people need to be exposed to that kind of scrutiny.
- pluma 11y ago
  For the most part, you have the right to disclose or not disclose information on your private live to your partner as much or as little as you please. You just can't demand there won't be consequences when they find out. And you can't force other people to respect your decisions if they find out. So, no. If you cheated and someone finds out, they are under no moral obligation to shut up about it. There are of course exceptions (e.g. if you're a woman in a country that applies Sharia law) but as a general rule: if you fuck up and lie about it, you should think about it as a delay rather than a way out.
Lawtonfogle 11y ago
>But I also do not approve on taking action that would result in folks I do not know getting exposed. Folks have a right to their own lives. Do they? Say this was some tor service that was leaked with users engaging in what you would consider far more immoral activity. Would you feel the same way? Now, maybe you would. But for most I've spoken to about this hack, they would feel different. For them, they 'right to their own lives' only exists as long as they aren't doing something too immoral. The difference between them and I is not based on if we believe they have a right to privacy with their business... we both do believe there is a limited right. We merely disagree on where the limits are. For comparison, this isn't the difference between someone who believes in freedom of speech and someone who doesn't, but between two people who both believe in limited freedom of speech trying to decide if some individual case is bad enough to censor or not.
vezzy-fnord 11y ago
I am reminded of Stalin's quote Tucholsky's quote.

NotOscarWilde 11y ago

> But I also do not approve on taking action that would result in folks I do not know getting exposed. Folks have a right to their own lives. I do not think there is such a right, because what you are describing is (in probably many cases) a right to break an agreement (marriage in this case) and keep pretending that you honor it until you yourself disclose it. In simpler terms: you may have "a right to your own life", but do you have a right to lie to your partner?

TDL 11y ago
Do you have right? Yes. Should you lie to your partner? Probably not. People have the right to do many things, even if those things are not beneficial to them in the long term.
- true_religion 11y ago
  This isn't just an issue of lying or not lying to their partner. Many people may have already worked out the cheating issue with their partners, and put themselves past it. However, now their friends and coworkers and neighbors can pretty easily search to see if they're in the dump. Not because they need to know... just because they're curious. I don't think these people need to be exposed to that kind of scrutiny.
pluma 11y ago
For the most part, you have the right to disclose or not disclose information on your private live to your partner as much or as little as you please. You just can't demand there won't be consequences when they find out. And you can't force other people to respect your decisions if they find out. So, no. If you cheated and someone finds out, they are under no moral obligation to shut up about it. There are of course exceptions (e.g. if you're a woman in a country that applies Sharia law) but as a general rule: if you fuck up and lie about it, you should think about it as a delay rather than a way out.

Lawtonfogle 11y ago

>But I also do not approve on taking action that would result in folks I do not know getting exposed. Folks have a right to their own lives. Do they? Say this was some tor service that was leaked with users engaging in what you would consider far more immoral activity. Would you feel the same way? Now, maybe you would. But for most I've spoken to about this hack, they would feel different. For them, they 'right to their own lives' only exists as long as they aren't doing something too immoral. The difference between them and I is not based on if we believe they have a right to privacy with their business... we both do believe there is a limited right. We merely disagree on where the limits are. For comparison, this isn't the difference between someone who believes in freedom of speech and someone who doesn't, but between two people who both believe in limited freedom of speech trying to decide if some individual case is bad enough to censor or not.

vezzy-fnord 11y ago

I am reminded of Stalin's quote Tucholsky's quote.