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I wish I knew more about this such as: * what affect on the data would there be if, rather than taking "scores" that are presumably an SAT Verbal, SAT Writing,
by mdasen 17y ago
I wish I knew more about this such as:
* what affect on the data would there be if, rather than taking "scores" that are presumably an SAT Verbal, SAT Writing, and SAT Math one took an SAT Verbal, SAT Math, and an SAT II Science.
* what portion of this might be attributable to differences in adolescent development? Female puberty usually starts between 9 and 14. Male puberty usually starts between 10 and 17. That means that males are more likely to be dealing with puberty during the period that their marks and scores are being taken for college admission.
* what portion of this is cultural? Is it more socially acceptable for females to excel academically than males? I'm usually not into the idea that males and females learn differently, but I am not an adolescent development psychologist and therefore am just spouting nonsense.
The one thing that I really love about this article is that it addresses something really important: no one is willing to talk about it.
- chrischen 17y agoWomen could also be more conformist, so they fit into the institutional requirements better. What are the stats for non institutional performance, like entrepreneurship?
- tokenadult 17y agoI can provide links to some of the SAT data you are looking for, current to the most recently reported high school graduating class (class of 2009). These links are mostly links to .PDF files: Composite scores: http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat_percentile_ranks_composite_cr_m_w.pdf http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat_perce... Math plus Critical Reading scores: http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat_percentile_ranks_composite_cr_m.pdf http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat_perce... Math scores: http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Math-Percentile-Ranks-2009.pdf http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Math-... Critical Reading scores: http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Critical-Reading-Percentile-Ranks-2009.pdf http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Criti... Writing scores: http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Writing-Percentile-Ranks-2009.pdf http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Writi... Some score percentiles by gender and ethnicity: http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Percentile-Ranks-by-Gender-Ethnicity-2009.pdf http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Perce... Subject Test percentile ranks (no data on gender): http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Subject-Test-Percentile-Ranks-2009.pdf http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/SAT-Subje... The ACT provides test score percentiles, with some data by gender: http://www.act.org/news/data/09/pdf/two.pdf http://www.act.org/news/data/09/pdf/two.pdf ACT also reports high school course-taking patterns self-reported by test-takers: http://www.act.org/news/data/09/pdf/three.pdf http://www.act.org/news/data/09/pdf/three.pdf Some of these data allow counts of whether more men or more women are taking the tests, which is suggestive of which group is submitting more applications to colleges that require the tests. SAT state reports http://professionals.collegeboard.com/data-reports-research/sat/cb-seniors-2009 http://professionals.collegeboard.com/data-reports-research/... e.g. http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/MN_09_03_03_01.pdf http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/MN_09_03_... also allow gender comparisons for particular places, and a look at which colleges get the most SAT score reports submitted from each state.
- btilly 17y agoSome more things to consider. - Growth spurts are tied to improvements in mental performance. This means that a girl who has hit puberty has significant cognitive advantages over a boy the same age who is not. - Test scores understate the difference. Some stereotypically female traits (like a tendency to double check work) both help in the classroom and hurt on timed tests. So the actual academic performance gap is larger than the SATs will state. - Broad based IQ studies have found that median performance among women is higher, but variability among men is higher. This means that more women are solidly above average than men, but the top performers are usually men. (The bottom performers are even more heavily weighted towards men.) When you get into gender and academic performance nothing is as simple as it looks. But the difficulty of the scientific questions are nothing compared to the difficulty of the political issues that come up.