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A Totalitarian Capitalist state is an oxymoron. Of course, since there is no absolute Capitalist or Socialist state in the world, you may argue with this statem
by afsina 11y ago
A Totalitarian Capitalist state is an oxymoron. Of course, since there is no absolute Capitalist or Socialist state in the world, you may argue with this statement. However, IMO, the degree of totalitarianism is correlated with how socialistic a state is. Because by definition Socialism requires varying degrees of aggression against private property, hence, creates totalitarian mechanisms of varying degrees.
- foobar___ 11y agoTake a look at Nazi Germany for an example of a totalitarian capitalist state. There were also dozens, if not hundreds, of third-world dictatorshipts that probably fit the bill as well.
- afsina 11y agoPerhaps `National Socialism` rings a bell?
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoIt's a marketing term. The Nazis were fascist, not socialist, and the two are really quite different.
- afsina 11y agoAnd they were definitely not free market Capitalists.
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- jacquesm 11y ago> A Totalitarian Capitalist state is an oxymoron. One billion Chinese beg to differ.
- afsina 11y agoState Capitalism and Crony capitalism is not free market Capitalism. But sure, word Capitalism is used in a wide spectrum for smearing. However, Chinese calls themselves `Socialist Market Economy ` https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_market_economy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_market_economy A quote from Mises: "The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state. Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic problem of Socialism—until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name. The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism." It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy, and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism."
- jacquesm 11y ago> State Capitalism and Crony capitalism is not free market Capitalism. You never mentioned free market capitalism.
- afsina 11y agoThat is the problem with the term. AFAIK Original term 'Capitalism' was a Marxist smear. However, Classical Liberals, accepts the term, but they probably would like a term like `Propertyism` or such. Again, Ludvig Von Mises says "The capitalist system was termed "capitalism" not by a friend of the system, but by an individual who considered it to be the worst of all historical systems, the greatest evil that had ever befallen mankind. That man was Karl Marx. Nevertheless, there is no reason to reject Marx's term, because it describes clearly the source of the great social improvements brought about by capitalism. Those improvements are the result of capital accumulation; they are based on the fact that people, as a rule, do not consume everything they have produced, that they save — and invest — a part of it." Other terms State Capitalism and Crony Capitalism are also coined by Socialists but essentially they are not accepted as a positive term by Classical Liberals because they are based on conflicting ideas of Capitalism such as protectionism and state monopolies. that is why I understand the actual free market Capitalism when the term is used.