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The fact is that those things (small, stupid disrespectful moments) are the kind of triggers for quitting or to start looking other stuff. When I go back, the

The fact is that those things (small, stupid disrespectful moments) are the kind of triggers for quitting or to start looking other stuff. When I go back, the things that most angered me about managers or companies hasn't been "big stuff" (crunching time, low pay, etc...), but those kind of "stupid serious conversations" (not liking the amount of time spend for lunch, that's just "behold! I need to MANAGE because I don't have anything better to do!" of the worst kind) Even in good jobs, those things infuriate you in a way that may make you resign just on the spot... And the current situation in tech it's not like you're afraid of not finding something else... PD: Part of the manager's work is to say sometimes "Oh! Don't worry about it, I'll talk to him/her and take good care of that" and then do NOTHING.

MCRed 11y ago
The small inconsiderations are the reality leaking out and letting you know what they think of you. They don't respect you and they won't respect you when review time comes around or when raises and bonuses are handed out. Thus it's not really blowing them out of proportion to react negatively to them. They're honesty leaking out.
autotune 11y ago
From my perspective the job of a manager is 4 fold: 1) Manage schedules. 2) Set expectations for performing well and be motivational (optional in my case but appreciated). 3) Prevent corporate politics and bullshit from getting in the way and keep the team in the loop about potential bullshit that is bound to come our way. 4) Manage or help manage hiring/firing process and promotion process. A manager should act as a background process that steps up only if things are very obviously wrong or you directly ask for help related to the above. If they are in the foreground without it being required than they are creating the political bullshit that results in team members becoming weary and quitting.
- dredmorbius 11y ago
  You're omitting a key element: providing the team with what they need to get the job done.
  - autotune 11y ago
    In my experience that's been provided through other existing departments and the manager simply ensures you know how to request access to what's already there, but in a smaller shop or a more centralized team definitely.

MCRed 11y ago

The small inconsiderations are the reality leaking out and letting you know what they think of you. They don't respect you and they won't respect you when review time comes around or when raises and bonuses are handed out. Thus it's not really blowing them out of proportion to react negatively to them. They're honesty leaking out.

autotune 11y ago

From my perspective the job of a manager is 4 fold: 1) Manage schedules. 2) Set expectations for performing well and be motivational (optional in my case but appreciated). 3) Prevent corporate politics and bullshit from getting in the way and keep the team in the loop about potential bullshit that is bound to come our way. 4) Manage or help manage hiring/firing process and promotion process. A manager should act as a background process that steps up only if things are very obviously wrong or you directly ask for help related to the above. If they are in the foreground without it being required than they are creating the political bullshit that results in team members becoming weary and quitting.

dredmorbius 11y ago
You're omitting a key element: providing the team with what they need to get the job done.
- autotune 11y ago
  In my experience that's been provided through other existing departments and the manager simply ensures you know how to request access to what's already there, but in a smaller shop or a more centralized team definitely.