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In Germany, trucks are required to have trip recorders. The police can (and will) check them to see if the minimum resting times were observed. Don't american t

In Germany, trucks are required to have trip recorders. The police can (and will) check them to see if the minimum resting times were observed. Don't american trucks have something similar?

nickff 11y ago
Logs are kept, but the posts above are making the point that drivers should be required to sleep a certain number of hours of the past 24 hours. Logs do not help you with this, unless you are using a sleep tracking device.
- michaelt 11y ago
  If your legal standard is "no more than 10 hours driving in any continuous 24 hour period, and at least 9 hours of continuous rest period" you don't know for /sure/ that the driver will sleep in the 14 hours they're not driving, but why wouldn't he/she?
  - MichaelGG 11y ago
    I guess it's because they might be shifting to a new schedule and it wasn't feasible to change sleep patterns? So if you get in at 00:00 one day, sleep until 08:00. Then you don't get a new assignment until 02:00 the next day day, you will have the necessary gap, but not have had any real way to have slept the right time. You would have needed to force yourself to sleep in the afternoon/evening, and, even with drugs, that is a hard thing to pull off.
  - mcguire 11y ago
    I believe the industry successfully fought off a simple hours-of-service schedule like that several years ago. Instead, you have: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-hours-service-regulations http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-h....
  - BurningFrog 11y ago
    Not everyone is blessed with the capacity to sleep at will.
kw71 11y ago
Nope, logs are all manual entries on sheets of paper.
- lsc 11y ago
  https://www.speedgauge.net/ https://www.speedgauge.net/ I only know about this 'cause I know some of their sysadmins. but there's a whole industry of automated truck-tracking and truck-activity logging out there. Most of it, I think, is focused on reducing liability/reducing insurance costs, I think; I don't think most of it is legally mandated. Note, I've also heard from other people who's pagers go off when certain devices can't resolve GPS signals that a common cause of their pager going off is a trucker driving by with a GPS jammer that was being used to defeat one of these automatic truck logging deals. So... yeah, it's not legally mandated or anything, but automatic logging of truck activity and speed is pretty common.
  - L_Rahman 11y ago
    It is legally mandated now, and the fleets have till 2018 to implement automated truck-tracking. I work at an enterprise hardware company and we get lots of inbound customer inquiries from logistics companies in the trucking space.
ihaveajob 11y ago
They do, in all western countries I know of. But that log can't check hours of sleep by the driver. On the other hand, this might be a whole new business segment for Fitbit and the like.

In Germany, trucks are required to have trip recorders. The police can (and will) check them to see if the minimum resting times were observed. Don't american trucks have something similar?

nickff 11y ago

Logs are kept, but the posts above are making the point that drivers should be required to sleep a certain number of hours of the past 24 hours. Logs do not help you with this, unless you are using a sleep tracking device.

michaelt 11y ago
If your legal standard is "no more than 10 hours driving in any continuous 24 hour period, and at least 9 hours of continuous rest period" you don't know for /sure/ that the driver will sleep in the 14 hours they're not driving, but why wouldn't he/she?
- MichaelGG 11y ago
  I guess it's because they might be shifting to a new schedule and it wasn't feasible to change sleep patterns? So if you get in at 00:00 one day, sleep until 08:00. Then you don't get a new assignment until 02:00 the next day day, you will have the necessary gap, but not have had any real way to have slept the right time. You would have needed to force yourself to sleep in the afternoon/evening, and, even with drugs, that is a hard thing to pull off.
- mcguire 11y ago
  I believe the industry successfully fought off a simple hours-of-service schedule like that several years ago. Instead, you have: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-hours-service-regulations http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-h....
- BurningFrog 11y ago
  Not everyone is blessed with the capacity to sleep at will.

kw71 11y ago

Nope, logs are all manual entries on sheets of paper.

lsc 11y ago
https://www.speedgauge.net/ https://www.speedgauge.net/ I only know about this 'cause I know some of their sysadmins. but there's a whole industry of automated truck-tracking and truck-activity logging out there. Most of it, I think, is focused on reducing liability/reducing insurance costs, I think; I don't think most of it is legally mandated. Note, I've also heard from other people who's pagers go off when certain devices can't resolve GPS signals that a common cause of their pager going off is a trucker driving by with a GPS jammer that was being used to defeat one of these automatic truck logging deals. So... yeah, it's not legally mandated or anything, but automatic logging of truck activity and speed is pretty common.
- L_Rahman 11y ago
  It is legally mandated now, and the fleets have till 2018 to implement automated truck-tracking. I work at an enterprise hardware company and we get lots of inbound customer inquiries from logistics companies in the trucking space.

ihaveajob 11y ago

They do, in all western countries I know of. But that log can't check hours of sleep by the driver. On the other hand, this might be a whole new business segment for Fitbit and the like.