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Do you remember in the comics of chrome, they said they were doing it to help other browsers. They also said they'd really like to have their ideas borrowed to

by d0m 17y ago

Do you remember in the comics of chrome, they said they were doing it to help other browsers. They also said they'd really like to have their ideas borrowed to make the web a better place.

MikeCapone 17y ago
Indeed. It would be even better (and noble) if they mentioned Chrome by name somewhere.
- jm4 17y ago
  That's absurd. Why would anyone publish a list of upcoming features and then mention which competitor they're borrowing them from?
  - MikeCapone 17y ago
    It's certainly not unheard of in the open source world to say that you've been inspired by another project. I recently watched an official video by Googlers about the Chrome extensions, and they mention Firefox by name many times.
    - pavs 17y ago
      Yup, even on chrome blog, on recent videos they have mentioned webkit/safari/apple contributions several times.
      - jm4 17y ago
        That's not an accurate comparison. That's an improvement to the rendering engine that's shared between them. They all have the feature. It's a different story when you're talking about a feature you're planning to implement and then mention the competitor who already has it. It's just plain stupid.
    - jm4 17y ago
      Yes, but, unlike some open source projects, Mozilla is out to make money from the project and their income is generated almost exclusively through a search deal with this particular competitor.
treyp 17y ago
which parts are so Chromish? the new Firefox button comes from Microsoft Office. the space between tabs comes from either Opera or Microsoft Office. the tabs on top, which is only a possibility at this point, comes from Opera first, but was implemented by Google Chrome down the line. the use of so much transparency in the menu may come from Microsoft Office or Chrome. the non-flat buttons can come from Opera or Chrome. the use of only three buttons on the left, however, comes from Chrome. it should be mentioned that Firefox is playing with the idea of getting rid of a refresh button on the left by building it into the location bar. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/3.7_and_4.0_Theme_and_UI_Revamp/Direction_and_Feedback#Merging_Stop.2FRefresh.2FGo_Into_One_Button https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/3.7_and_4.0_Theme_... just want to give credit where credit is due.
- pavs 17y ago
  Have you used chrome recently? While they might have borrowed ideas from other UI designs, never before did Firefox look more like chrome. Not that its a bad thing. Throughout its history FF have taken design ideas from IE, Opera extensively. For all we know, FF most likely wouldn't even consider such a drastic UI change if chrome wasn't in the picture. FF UI changes has always been incremental and subtle.
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by d0m 17y ago

Do you remember in the comics of chrome, they said they were doing it to help other browsers. They also said they'd really like to have their ideas borrowed to make the web a better place.

MikeCapone 17y ago

Indeed. It would be even better (and noble) if they mentioned Chrome by name somewhere.

jm4 17y ago
That's absurd. Why would anyone publish a list of upcoming features and then mention which competitor they're borrowing them from?
- MikeCapone 17y ago
  It's certainly not unheard of in the open source world to say that you've been inspired by another project. I recently watched an official video by Googlers about the Chrome extensions, and they mention Firefox by name many times.
  - pavs 17y ago
    Yup, even on chrome blog, on recent videos they have mentioned webkit/safari/apple contributions several times.
    - jm4 17y ago
      That's not an accurate comparison. That's an improvement to the rendering engine that's shared between them. They all have the feature. It's a different story when you're talking about a feature you're planning to implement and then mention the competitor who already has it. It's just plain stupid.
  - jm4 17y ago
    Yes, but, unlike some open source projects, Mozilla is out to make money from the project and their income is generated almost exclusively through a search deal with this particular competitor.

treyp 17y ago

which parts are so Chromish? the new Firefox button comes from Microsoft Office. the space between tabs comes from either Opera or Microsoft Office. the tabs on top, which is only a possibility at this point, comes from Opera first, but was implemented by Google Chrome down the line. the use of so much transparency in the menu may come from Microsoft Office or Chrome. the non-flat buttons can come from Opera or Chrome. the use of only three buttons on the left, however, comes from Chrome. it should be mentioned that Firefox is playing with the idea of getting rid of a refresh button on the left by building it into the location bar. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/3.7_and_4.0_Theme_and_UI_Revamp/Direction_and_Feedback#Merging_Stop.2FRefresh.2FGo_Into_One_Button https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/3.7_and_4.0_Theme_... just want to give credit where credit is due.

pavs 17y ago
Have you used chrome recently? While they might have borrowed ideas from other UI designs, never before did Firefox look more like chrome. Not that its a bad thing. Throughout its history FF have taken design ideas from IE, Opera extensively. For all we know, FF most likely wouldn't even consider such a drastic UI change if chrome wasn't in the picture. FF UI changes has always been incremental and subtle.

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