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This is a large reason why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-mover_advantage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-mover_advantage But what you listed also i

by Nadya 11y ago

This is a large reason why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-mover_advantage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-mover_advantage But what you listed also isn't all it provides. Imagine being 99% done with a 35.6GB download. If Firefox crashes, you get to start that download from the beginning. As if you hadn't downloaded any part of it at all. DTA would recover and you'd download 1% of that 35.6GB instead of the entire 35.6GB. That's a large reason to use DTA over the built-in download manager by itself.

douche 11y ago
One would hope that anyone providing a 35GB download would provide a torrent or magnet-link download. Maybe I'm wrong, but is seeding the torrent any more expensive than the same bandwidth from a web/ftp server? And then, it's also possible to offload some of the bandwidth onto the swarm, assuming there's more than one concurrent download. It is a little amazing that the downloading functionality provided out-of-the-box in all the major browsers is such hot garbage still.
- Nadya 11y ago
  So instead of a download manager I need a torrenting program? ;) That's just shifting the problem of "poor downloading" to a different tool. Many would prefer to not have to install another program and would prefer installing an add-on for a program they already have installed. I do agree with you about torrent/magnet link being provided. Though sometimes large .iso downloads don't come with a torrent/magnet link. E: Regardless of file size - even if the download is only 20mb - it's annoying to have to redownload the entire 20mb instead of starting where it left off. What if I'm having connection issues? What if the server is having connection issues? Starting at n% and slowly making progress is better than starting from 0% or having the download be impossible...
Havoc 11y ago
> If Firefox crashes, you get to start that download from the beginning. Pretty sure the built in FF download manager does this too. Either way I had kinda assumed this as a base-line for any downloader. Hell that toy project that I programmed as a kid could continue downloads. My point is DTA does zero special from my view, except that I know the brand (First mover - as you pointed out) and batch (useful to me as I don't know of any other way). Presumably there is some wget magic that can do it, but I'm on windows so DTA is easier.

by Nadya 11y ago

douche 11y ago

One would hope that anyone providing a 35GB download would provide a torrent or magnet-link download. Maybe I'm wrong, but is seeding the torrent any more expensive than the same bandwidth from a web/ftp server? And then, it's also possible to offload some of the bandwidth onto the swarm, assuming there's more than one concurrent download. It is a little amazing that the downloading functionality provided out-of-the-box in all the major browsers is such hot garbage still.

Nadya 11y ago
So instead of a download manager I need a torrenting program? ;) That's just shifting the problem of "poor downloading" to a different tool. Many would prefer to not have to install another program and would prefer installing an add-on for a program they already have installed. I do agree with you about torrent/magnet link being provided. Though sometimes large .iso downloads don't come with a torrent/magnet link. E: Regardless of file size - even if the download is only 20mb - it's annoying to have to redownload the entire 20mb instead of starting where it left off. What if I'm having connection issues? What if the server is having connection issues? Starting at n% and slowly making progress is better than starting from 0% or having the download be impossible...

Havoc 11y ago

> If Firefox crashes, you get to start that download from the beginning. Pretty sure the built in FF download manager does this too. Either way I had kinda assumed this as a base-line for any downloader. Hell that toy project that I programmed as a kid could continue downloads. My point is DTA does zero special from my view, except that I know the brand (First mover - as you pointed out) and batch (useful to me as I don't know of any other way). Presumably there is some wget magic that can do it, but I'm on windows so DTA is easier.