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Article: http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/vaop/naam/abs/npp2015240a.html http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/vaop/naam/abs/npp2015240a....

• danieltillett 11y ago
  This should have been a link in the press release.
• tokenadult 11y ago
  Key point: "This is an unedited manuscript that has been accepted for publication. NPG are providing this early version of the manuscript as a service to our customers. The manuscript will undergo copyediting, typesetting and a proof review before it is published in its final form. Please note that during the production process errors may be discovered which could affect the content, and all legal disclaimers apply." We shouldn't have submissions like this to Hacker News. Hacker News should be reserved for articles that have survived peer review (and preferably for independent journalism that comments on published, peer-reviewed articles based on interviews with scientists who didn't do the publication), and we shouldn't be discussing press releases here except to decry them. http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174 http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174
  • dluan 11y ago
    Why should HN only be reserved for "official" publications?
    • tokenadult 11y ago
      Thanks for asking. The idea is not mine, but the idea of the founders of the site, in different words. As Hacker News says in its welcome letter to new participants, "Essentially there are two rules here: don't post or upvote crap links, and don't be rude or dumb in comment threads."[1] Submitting press releases rather than peer-reviewed publications or journalism about peer-reviewed publications violates the first rule directly and generally leads to comment threads that violate the second rule. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
      • dluan 11y ago
        I totally understand the symptoms that lead to a rule like that but ain't that throwing out the baby with the bathwater? Or conversely, peer-reviewed pubs can still be muddy bathwater.
        • tokenadult 11y ago
          I thought your own top-level comment was quite eloquent about the reasons not to submit press releases like this to Hacker News. Simply put, we can do better. When we do better, the whole community benefits from better discussion.
  • danieltillett 11y ago
    If it has been accepted for publication it is has gone through peer-review. The editing that is to be done is just the minor language changes the editorial staff like to make. It is totally acceptable to reference and post here.