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The thing is, I'm not a web developer and I don't think I should be forced to use the Developer Edition just so I can remain in charge of what I install in my b
by shock 11y ago
The thing is, I'm not a web developer and I don't think I should be forced to use the Developer Edition just so I can remain in charge of what I install in my browser. Now that I'm writing this it occurs to me that after this change it's not really my browser anymore, is it?
- catern 11y agoUse Iceweasel or GNU Icecat?
- shock 11y agoThanks for the suggestion! That's what I'll prolly end up doing although neither of them are in the Ubuntu repos.
- outworlder 11y agoAre you sure you are a 'power user', then?
- shock 11y agoI'm not sure what you mean, but are you suggesting that if I'm a savvy driver I should just drive prototype cars?
- nightski 11y agoAre you suggesting that the developer edition is merely a prototype and not a production browser?
- shock 11y agoIndeed, I am :)
- czinck 11y agoAccording to a comment lower down, Developer Edition is on the alpha branch, so yes, it is a prototype.
- nightski 11y agoI don't think prototype is fair. A prototype is a proof of concept. Just because something is in beta or even alpha shape doesn't make it that.
- fernandotakai 11y agoi tried running firefox developer for a while and since it's based on the alpha code, it broke all my extensions on each update. so yeah, i'm a power user (i run 3 custom extensions that i wrote, pentadactyl and dotjs) but it's not feasible for me to keep running developer.
- hew 11y agoI hear you on the control thing. You mention you are a power user above so my two cents is that likely puts you outside of the user base Mozilla covets. In the last couple years, the words "Firefox" and "power user" went hand-and-hand but I'd wager Mozilla would trade customer bases with Google in a heartbeat. FWIW, the Developer Edition feels pretty lean and mean. I haven't tried since I am a web developer, but it looks like you can remove most or all of the parts that make it web developer-y if you are so inclined.
- shock 11y agoI've ran Nightly and Aurora (which is now Developer Edition) for a while but extensions/themes broke more often than I'd have liked because there was too little time for extension devs to update their extensions in case incompatible changes were introduced.
- Animats 11y ago"You mention you are a power user above so my two cents is that likely puts you outside of the user base Mozilla covets." Mozilla's business model needs users who can't figure out how to turn off Yahoo search. That pays for their new Firefox offices on the waterfront in San Francisco.[1] [1] https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7895991,-122.3883498,3a,36y,261.2h,88.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smc9fpZTq_-zg0zkcnud46g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7895991,-122.3883498,3a,36y,...
- azakai 11y agoThere will also be special builds of Beta and Release without this limitation - you won't need to use Developer or Nightly.
- ptx 11y agoDoes this mean that the FTP server will now offer a choice of: 1) Firefox without DRM, without lockdown 2) Firefox without DRM, with lockdown 3) Firefox with DRM, without lockdown 4) Firefox with DRM, with lockdown ...for every language?
- azakai 11y agoI don't know if they'll offer each permutation of all those possibilities. I don't see why not though, it's just a little more build time. In any case, if the specific combination of features you want is missing, the option to build from source is always there. (At least on Linux, building Firefox is also pretty easy.)
- MacsHeadroom 11y agoAFAIK, yes, that is the plan. However, "without lockdown" is going to be an "unbranded browser." So likely you will see two folders, something like this: /browser/release/ 1) Browser with DRM (no lockdown) 2) Browser without DRM (no lockdown) /firefox/release/ 1) Firefox without DRM 2) Firefox with DRM
- ptx 11y agoThat doesn't sound like an option that will fork for my use-case - I manage a bunch of Windows machines; if we upgrade Firefox to "Noname Browser" with a different icon, the users will be confused and unable to find it.
- scottjad 11y agoThey said previously the unbranded non-lockdown beta/stable releases would be enUS only.
- johnny22 11y agoyou don't need the developer edition, you can use the unbranded version which is the same as the regular version except without the branding.