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Still waiting for the obligatory RMS "Anti-Torvalds" rant. Also this doesn't seem to be the announcement of "We are moving to git as of this date" but rather "

by hasteur 11y ago

Still waiting for the obligatory RMS "Anti-Torvalds" rant. Also this doesn't seem to be the announcement of "We are moving to git as of this date" but rather "Why don't we move over to git" proposal

solidpy 11y ago
Git is free software, I don't see why RMS should have a problem with it. Is he still a commiter anyway?
- garenp 11y ago
  Probably because the FSF doesn't own the copyright for it. Without the copyright, you can't do fun things like forcing everyone to upgrade to the GPL3.
- dbbolton 11y ago
  He doesn't have a problem with git per se, at least not overtly. I think the confusion is that Emacs went with Bazaar over Git in 2008 essentially because it was a GNU project (and Arch had faded into obscurity by that point): >We should use Bzr because that is becoming a GNU package. GNU packages should show loyalty to each other when possible, and in this case it is possible.[1] But now its main repository is managed with git[2], Savannah as a whole makes extensive use of git,[3] and Stallman tacitly supports git by linking to git repos from his personal website.[4] 1. http://lwn.net/Articles/272853/ http://lwn.net/Articles/272853/ 2. http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs/ http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs/ 3. http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/UsingGit/ http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/UsingGit/ 3. https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
jordigh 11y ago
RMS doesn't have a problem with git because Linus made it. He had a problem with it because it separates pushes from commits. :-) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9292209 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9292209 But otherwise, rms uses git quite alright. Let's not portray him as any crazier than he actually is.
- hasteur 11y ago
  What other synonyms would you prefer using with respect to RMS and his obsessive-compulsive need to denounce Linus and Linux every time as "GNU Linux" instead of "Linux"?
  - jordigh 11y ago
    Well, he only obsesses over that when you refer to the OS. If you're just referring to the kernel, he thinks it's ok to call it Linux. And he doesn't think Android is GNU/Linux. I call that a bit crazy, but also crazy reasonable, because GNU really is the foundation of the OS, along with Linux.
    - jff 11y ago
      http://pedrocr.pt/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux/ http://pedrocr.pt/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux/
      - jordigh 11y ago
        The point is not so much the size (which has changed over the years) but how foundational it is. You can remove without replacement almost everything else from that pie chart except Linux and GNU and still have a functional OS, but without any coreutils or Linux or a replacement for either you don't have much of an OS left.
        jff 11y ago
        *BSD guys seem to do pretty good without a GNU coreutils.
        the_why_of_y 11y ago
        *BSD guys seem to do pretty good without a Linux.
      - belorn 11y ago

by hasteur 11y ago

Still waiting for the obligatory RMS "Anti-Torvalds" rant. Also this doesn't seem to be the announcement of "We are moving to git as of this date" but rather "Why don't we move over to git" proposal

solidpy 11y ago

Git is free software, I don't see why RMS should have a problem with it. Is he still a commiter anyway?

garenp 11y ago
Probably because the FSF doesn't own the copyright for it. Without the copyright, you can't do fun things like forcing everyone to upgrade to the GPL3.
dbbolton 11y ago
He doesn't have a problem with git per se, at least not overtly. I think the confusion is that Emacs went with Bazaar over Git in 2008 essentially because it was a GNU project (and Arch had faded into obscurity by that point): >We should use Bzr because that is becoming a GNU package. GNU packages should show loyalty to each other when possible, and in this case it is possible.[1] But now its main repository is managed with git[2], Savannah as a whole makes extensive use of git,[3] and Stallman tacitly supports git by linking to git repos from his personal website.[4] 1. http://lwn.net/Articles/272853/ http://lwn.net/Articles/272853/ 2. http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs/ http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs/ 3. http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/UsingGit/ http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/UsingGit/ 3. https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html

jordigh 11y ago

RMS doesn't have a problem with git because Linus made it. He had a problem with it because it separates pushes from commits. :-) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9292209 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9292209 But otherwise, rms uses git quite alright. Let's not portray him as any crazier than he actually is.

hasteur 11y ago
What other synonyms would you prefer using with respect to RMS and his obsessive-compulsive need to denounce Linus and Linux every time as "GNU Linux" instead of "Linux"?
- jordigh 11y ago
  Well, he only obsesses over that when you refer to the OS. If you're just referring to the kernel, he thinks it's ok to call it Linux. And he doesn't think Android is GNU/Linux. I call that a bit crazy, but also crazy reasonable, because GNU really is the foundation of the OS, along with Linux.
  - jff 11y ago
    http://pedrocr.pt/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux/ http://pedrocr.pt/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux/
    - jordigh 11y ago
      The point is not so much the size (which has changed over the years) but how foundational it is. You can remove without replacement almost everything else from that pie chart except Linux and GNU and still have a functional OS, but without any coreutils or Linux or a replacement for either you don't have much of an OS left.
      - jff 11y ago
        *BSD guys seem to do pretty good without a GNU coreutils.
        the_why_of_y 11y ago
        *BSD guys seem to do pretty good without a Linux.
    - belorn 11y ago