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> Well, actually, they want you to be able to set a photo as the cover of a playlist, and there is no difference between "Allow user to upload 1 photo" and "Hav

> Well, actually, they want you to be able to set a photo as the cover of a playlist, and there is no difference between "Allow user to upload 1 photo" and "Have access to all of users photo" in terms of mobile permissions. There's no way I as a user can prevent other usage of my photos after I give them permission to access them all. I therefore have to trust Spotify that they won't abuse their access to my (and all the other people who install the app)'s photos. Now I understand you trust them completely, and that's your right, I don't trust them at all especially considering their strong ties with Facebook. Regarding their public 'Sorry' posted this afternoon: https://news.spotify.com/us/2015/08/21/sorry-2/ https://news.spotify.com/us/2015/08/21/sorry-2/ it's still vague. They state "Photos: We will never access your photos without explicit permission", but there's no state possible where the user can use the app and _not_ have given permission, as the app is only installable if the user gives access to the photos through the Android access rights at install time. After that the app already has access to the photos, and Spotify can state that they won't access the photos 'without explicit permission' but that's moot: to not give them explicit permission I have just 1 option: not install the app (otherwise I have to, see above). Which is a bit of a shit option, really, if you pay for the service (like I did) and want to listen to music.

ultramancool 11y ago
> There's no way I as a user can prevent other usage of my photos after I give them permission to access them all. I therefore have to trust Spotify that they won't abuse their access to my (and all the other people who install the app)'s photos. There are 3rd party systems like XPrivacy which allows you to individually allow actions like this.
- otis_inf 11y ago
  On unmodded phones? If not, that could be a problem ;)
  - ultramancool 11y ago
    Yeah, it's not a tool for novice users, but generally systems like this are not good for novice users. They form habits of click yes if you want stuff to work.
- wil421 11y ago
  If you have a rooted android you use XPrivacy. The permissions are better on iOS than when I had an Android but depending on the app you dont have much control. For example Waze and The Weather Channel app wont let me set Location Services to "While Using" (unlike Google maps and Apple Maps). Instead I am left with no access to location or Always on which drains my battery horribly. Beside I shouldn't have to install a 3rd party to be able to restrict access.
criley2 11y ago
"we will never scan or import your photo library or camera roll. " Very vague, let me tell you what.
tomp 11y ago
> but there's no state possible where the user can use the app and _not_ have given permission, as the app is only installable if the user gives access to the photos through the Android access rights at install time Use an iPhone.

ultramancool 11y ago

> There's no way I as a user can prevent other usage of my photos after I give them permission to access them all. I therefore have to trust Spotify that they won't abuse their access to my (and all the other people who install the app)'s photos. There are 3rd party systems like XPrivacy which allows you to individually allow actions like this.

otis_inf 11y ago
On unmodded phones? If not, that could be a problem ;)
- ultramancool 11y ago
  Yeah, it's not a tool for novice users, but generally systems like this are not good for novice users. They form habits of click yes if you want stuff to work.
wil421 11y ago
If you have a rooted android you use XPrivacy. The permissions are better on iOS than when I had an Android but depending on the app you dont have much control. For example Waze and The Weather Channel app wont let me set Location Services to "While Using" (unlike Google maps and Apple Maps). Instead I am left with no access to location or Always on which drains my battery horribly. Beside I shouldn't have to install a 3rd party to be able to restrict access.

criley2 11y ago

"we will never scan or import your photo library or camera roll. " Very vague, let me tell you what.

tomp 11y ago

> but there's no state possible where the user can use the app and _not_ have given permission, as the app is only installable if the user gives access to the photos through the Android access rights at install time Use an iPhone.