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Cameron is not really trying to ban encryption (or even ban end to end encryption apps). This is misdirection in the run up to new surveillance legislation. Th
by agd 11y ago
Cameron is not really trying to ban encryption (or even ban end to end encryption apps).
This is misdirection in the run up to new surveillance legislation. The real issue is 'bulk collection'.
The UK government is trying to frame the debate such that the concept of mass surveillance is not challenged.
- onion2k 11y agoBulk collection is rendered entirely pointless by end-to-end encryption because the government would just end up with vast amounts of data they can't read. I would say the UK government is trying to ban encryption, and for exactly that reason - they want mass surveillance that is 'useful' (for the government's definition of useful, which is not the same as mine or yours).
- agd 11y agoThe GCHQ geeks are not stupid, they know banning end-to-end encryption is not really feasible. Yes, increased usage of it will harm "bulk collection" but not too much. Your whatsapp might be end-to-end encrypted, but companies such as facebook and google aren't going to change too much because it would harm their business models.