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Well a few minutes with google and wikipedia will set you straight on this. Actually that your legally wrong insistence that copyright infringement is theft ac
by JupiterMoon 11y ago
Well a few minutes with google and wikipedia will set you straight on this. Actually that your legally wrong insistence that copyright infringement is theft actually damages your copyright maximalist stance in the eyes of both legal precedent and public opinion. NB I don't argue that copyright infringement should be legal -- merely that is is a different class of crime than theft.
- sbuk 11y agoI have first hand experience of your car theft analogy, my car was stolen and, luckily enough for me, recovered along with the thieves. They were successfully prosecuted. You are, yet again, wrong.
- JupiterMoon 11y agoYou are quite slow to grasp simple concepts aren't you. The car theft example is not an analogy it is a fact. I never said that taking a car is legal. However, the crime is "taking without permission" not "theft" (although it is I admit often referred to as theft in common parlance). This is because theft has a clear long standing meaning which for various reasons is often difficult to establish for cars. Therefore a new type of crime (which happens to have the same punishment) was created. The point about how stupid you copyright maximalists sound to the general public when about software 'theft' stands. You weaken you position when you do so and make yourselves subject to ridicule.
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- sbuk 11y agoWow.
- JupiterMoon 11y agoDid it blow your mind when you understood something for a change?
- sbuk 11y agoYour comment ought to be flagged, but for some reason cannot be done by me. You have gone too far. Not only are you wrong, you are being obnoxious, rude and cowardly. I guarantee that you wouldn't dare speak like that to anyone you were in front of. Just another cowardly nerd hiding behind a screen.
- dang 11y agoUsers can't flag or downvote direct replies. You're right that what that user did was not ok. Unfortunately comments like this one just compound the problem. When you can't flag a comment, someone else probably will. Or you can email us at hn@ycombinator.com. But please resist getting into a personal spat.
- JupiterMoon 11y agoDang. sbuk has repeatedly insulted me and sworn at me during this discussion. I do not understand how what she is saying is OK when what I say is not? Additionally I have attempted to be reconciliatory during this discussion whereas she has only been confrontational. I'm sorry that I eventually got slightly annoyed.
- dang 11y agoEveryone in this thread was at fault. You can't post things like "Did it blow your mind when you understood something for a change" here. HN's rules hold regardless of how provocative someone else may have been. We all lose it on the internet sometimes. On HN the thing to do is recognize that you broke the rules, stop blaming the other person for it, and move on. The I-merely defense ("I was merely X-ing, but they were Y-ing") doesn't work. You can, and people do, justify anything that way.
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- dang 11y agoYou're violating the site guidelines egregiously. We ban accounts for this. Please don't do it again.
- JupiterMoon 11y agoI'm sorry that I violated the guidelines but can you enlighten me as to which part of this post violated which guideline?
- dang 11y ago"You are quite slow to grasp simple concepts" violates "Be civil."
- JupiterMoon 11y agoDid you read some of the stuff that she posted to me elsewhere in this article?