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I love the idea behind 80legs, and their Plura program is a great way to help monetize webgames, but I just can't get past their interface. Too many of the thi
by e1ven 17y ago
I love the idea behind 80legs, and their Plura program is a great way to help monetize webgames, but I just can't get past their interface.
Too many of the things that I want to do require custom code- And while it's great that they support me uploading custom code right in the window, the implementation makes it pretty difficult.
For one, since all the code needs to be manually reviewed, I can't rapidly iterate. Granted, I'm only a mediocre coder, but the way I tend to program with a new API is to write a Hello World, then expand it outward. Add in one feature, test, expand it to another, until it does most of what I want. Then, I send it through a sample-set of data, and if it works, I'm good to go.
There's no way to do this with the 80legs program.
The second problem is that the code has to be in Java. I like Java. I use Java on my own projects. But java isn't a very fun language. I don't know many people who wake up in the morning excited because they get to write Java apps. The thing is, the JVM supports a multitude of scripting languages.. Give us access to them.
Let me upload ruby code, with an idea, click-and-run against some sample data, and see what happens.
I have a old test project I worked on a year ago, that identifies images and tracks their sources.. Something like 80 legs would be perfect to "seed" it, and fill it up with data. But figuring out how to make it work is too much of a hassle, versus doing the crawling myself, and the speed difference isn't worth it to me. If it gets done in a week versus 5 weeks, it doesn't make change very much in the end.
In any event, I do wish them well. It's a very innovative program, and with some implementation work, I think it could do very well.
- axod 17y ago>> "But java isn't a very fun language." No language is "fun". It's what you create with the language that is fun :) The worst thing about the tech industry is the constant language wars.
- paraschopra 17y agoSome languages are inherently fun, take Logo for instance :)
- e1ven 17y agoSure, that's a fair point, but ensuring type safety is something I do on projects because I'm afraid of the long-term consequences if I don't, not because it makes me all giddy inside.
- jdrock 17y agoWhile the JVM does support many languages, as far as we know, these languages all require reflection to work. Unfortunately, reflection is prohibited by the security policy Plura has in place to protect the home PCs Plura-based apps use. If anyone knows how to make JRuby, Jython, etc work in the JVM without reflection, we would love to hear it.