I never said any of that. I called him out on working 80 hours; he apparently does. Good for him. That doesn't mean you should make assumptions beyond that. I'm

I never said any of that. I called him out on working 80 hours; he apparently does. Good for him. That doesn't mean you should make assumptions beyond that. I'm already at 40 hours this week. So I'll hit ~60 before I go home Friday night. Second, why would I care about being laughed out of a room at those places? It's sounds like you are trying to put shame/value on not wanting to join in on the 80 hour fun. I challenge you or anyone, to actually talk about the value this provides to the employee. Go ahead and argue for 80 hours without mentioning 'successful companies'.