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I don't understand this sort of reaction. In Europe, to be successful, you have to work hard and long, too. Please tell me what your definition of 'success' is
by roel_v 11y ago
I don't understand this sort of reaction. In Europe, to be successful, you have to work hard and long, too. Please tell me what your definition of 'success' is if you go home after 35 or 40 hours.
- pjmlp 11y agoBut never > 80 hours, 60 maybe. In Germany there are laws that limit how many hours one is allowed to do continuously each month.
- roel_v 11y agoYeah, and there are laws against jaywalking too, what's your point? Half my office did 60+ hour weeks when I worked in Germany. That was the culture, didn't like it? Fine, go somewhere else, but the pay, the kind of work and the career prospects will be worse for it.
- pjmlp 11y agoThere is a better way than just going elsewhere. Report the working conditions to Arbeitsamt. Knowing the law is quite valuable and abuse only works when everyone keeps quiet.
- roel_v 11y ago8| not sure if I'm just being trolled here... There is no way to have a 'career' (as opposed to a 'job', of course) without working more than 40 hours a week. (not saying 80 hours for 15 years either, but certainly more than 40). Of course one can be that petty guy who goes around citing Henry Ford and 'work life balance' and that whole spiel... but guess what, those people will never advance to anywhere. Professionals know that.
- pjmlp 11y agoMy "career" is the prof one can have a career without being a slave of capitalism. It helps when companies play by the rules with the Works Council and the respective unions. And yes, I am one of those guys that would disclose bad working conditions to the Arbeitsamt.
- roel_v 11y agoYeah, and there are laws against jaywalking too, what's your point? Half my office did 60+ hour weeks when I worked in Germany. That was the culture, didn't like it? Fine, go somewhere else, but the pay, the kind of work and the career prospects will be worse for it.