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Since YouTube started making money, Hollywood wants a larger cut. This prompts google to make international copyright law more permissive, so hollywood's conten

Since YouTube started making money, Hollywood wants a larger cut. This prompts google to make international copyright law more permissive, so hollywood's content depreciates in value.

DannyBee 11y ago
I love cynicism as much as the next guy. However, but considering Google has been fighting the good fight on TPP since before they owned Youtube (i can personally attest to this, since i worked in the DC office :P), i'm going to suggest you simply have no idea what you are talking about :)
- deleted 11y ago
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- gok 11y ago
  I'll assume by "the good fight" you meant "[making] international copyright law more permissive." Surely you see how that was in your employer's best interests for other parts of their business long before they bought YouTube?
  - annnnd 11y ago
    And of course there was Google Video (before they bought Youtube).
  - DannyBee 11y ago
    You never believe me when i tell you this, but google honestly did not give a crap about its business interests when it started that fight, it cared about the world being a better place. You are talking about ~2006. Folks then were much more concerned with "making the world better" (TM) than making money. The folks involved weren't thinking "Hey, 10 years from now, we might own a video company and this might be a net bad for us" or "hey, this might later some day affect ads profits for search". They were thinking "Hey, this would make the world pretty shitty for people, we should try to do something because we have a larger voice than a lot of folks" (Note that at this time in 2006, google had 3 people in the DC office, including me. I pretty much know all the motivations of my office mates, who were responsible for starting this)
- RodericDay 11y ago
  Every single time I see you post you're shilling for Google. You must not love it that much.
  - DannyBee 11y ago
    You have a funny definition of shilling. Every time i respond to a post about Google it's some cynical person who can't possibly ever imagine that the reason things are done are not always about profit or business or whatever else. Shocking, i know (Google is a big place, so yeah, nowadays, there's plenty of people with plenty of motives in plenty of places). When I have direct knowledge of those situations (IE i was in the room), and actually know the reasons things were done, and i'm allowed to talk about it, I try to correct this kind of misinformation. It's funny to me how history gets rewritten as public perceptions later change.
    - tptacek 11y ago
      I don't like everything Google does, and perhaps not even every decision you've been a party to (who knows), but aside from your new habit of ending every other sentence with a smiley, I am grateful to have someone with direct, in-depth knowledge commenting on Googley issues here. Thanks!
  - dang 11y ago
    That's a personal attack. Those are not allowed here. HN has many users who work for major tech companies. No doubt everyone is biased in favor of their employer, but people also know the most about things they've personally worked on, and it isn't in anyone's interest for HN to have less knowledge in the threads. The solution is for everyone to post civilly and substantively, not be personally attacked for it, and let readers make up their own minds.

Since YouTube started making money, Hollywood wants a larger cut. This prompts google to make international copyright law more permissive, so hollywood's content depreciates in value.

DannyBee 11y ago

I love cynicism as much as the next guy. However, but considering Google has been fighting the good fight on TPP since before they owned Youtube (i can personally attest to this, since i worked in the DC office :P), i'm going to suggest you simply have no idea what you are talking about :)

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gok 11y ago
I'll assume by "the good fight" you meant "[making] international copyright law more permissive." Surely you see how that was in your employer's best interests for other parts of their business long before they bought YouTube?
- annnnd 11y ago
  And of course there was Google Video (before they bought Youtube).
- DannyBee 11y ago
  You never believe me when i tell you this, but google honestly did not give a crap about its business interests when it started that fight, it cared about the world being a better place. You are talking about ~2006. Folks then were much more concerned with "making the world better" (TM) than making money. The folks involved weren't thinking "Hey, 10 years from now, we might own a video company and this might be a net bad for us" or "hey, this might later some day affect ads profits for search". They were thinking "Hey, this would make the world pretty shitty for people, we should try to do something because we have a larger voice than a lot of folks" (Note that at this time in 2006, google had 3 people in the DC office, including me. I pretty much know all the motivations of my office mates, who were responsible for starting this)
RodericDay 11y ago
Every single time I see you post you're shilling for Google. You must not love it that much.
- DannyBee 11y ago
  You have a funny definition of shilling. Every time i respond to a post about Google it's some cynical person who can't possibly ever imagine that the reason things are done are not always about profit or business or whatever else. Shocking, i know (Google is a big place, so yeah, nowadays, there's plenty of people with plenty of motives in plenty of places). When I have direct knowledge of those situations (IE i was in the room), and actually know the reasons things were done, and i'm allowed to talk about it, I try to correct this kind of misinformation. It's funny to me how history gets rewritten as public perceptions later change.
  - tptacek 11y ago
    I don't like everything Google does, and perhaps not even every decision you've been a party to (who knows), but aside from your new habit of ending every other sentence with a smiley, I am grateful to have someone with direct, in-depth knowledge commenting on Googley issues here. Thanks!
- dang 11y ago
  That's a personal attack. Those are not allowed here. HN has many users who work for major tech companies. No doubt everyone is biased in favor of their employer, but people also know the most about things they've personally worked on, and it isn't in anyone's interest for HN to have less knowledge in the threads. The solution is for everyone to post civilly and substantively, not be personally attacked for it, and let readers make up their own minds.