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yeah, difficult people always scream politics after reading that post, my prob that the author is a very difficult person is 0.995. Or maybe higher. And the

by x0x0 11y ago

yeah, difficult people always scream politics after reading that post, my prob that the author is a very difficult person is 0.995. Or maybe higher. And the managers at amazon appear not to be running the company into the ground by, say, measures like company success.

dragontamer 11y ago
> yeah, difficult people always scream politics True, but the converse is not necessarily true either. Not necessarily. My sister is in a position with horrible office politics. Honestly, office politics is often much lower to the ground than you'd think and is maybe only related to one boss or two bosses above you. (Affecting ~50 to ~200 people). Middle Managers have a tough job, and too many middle managers fail to do their job at all. A completely epic fail middle-boss can break a team apart. Even just an "adequate" middle manager will fail to reward the proper behaviors consistently (or punish poor behaviors consistently). Honestly, if you're in a dire situation... its best to GTFO. But not necessarily out of the company... maybe out to another management chain is enough to get away from toxic team politics.
waterlesscloud 11y ago
In my experience large, successful companies can be harboring a very large number of incompetent or irrelevant managers. The parts of the company that work often do so spectacularly and sometimes carry the bulk of the company that's broken. Eventually the tide goes out and reveals who's been swimming naked, but that can take decades. The point is- you definitely cannot look at a successful company and infer that all (or even most) of management knows what its doing.
adekok 11y ago
> after reading that post, my prob that the author is a very difficult person is 0.995. Or maybe higher. Oh, quite possibly. That doesn't negate the idea that perhaps their managers goals were opposite to Amazon's goals.

by x0x0 11y ago

dragontamer 11y ago

> yeah, difficult people always scream politics True, but the converse is not necessarily true either. Not necessarily. My sister is in a position with horrible office politics. Honestly, office politics is often much lower to the ground than you'd think and is maybe only related to one boss or two bosses above you. (Affecting ~50 to ~200 people). Middle Managers have a tough job, and too many middle managers fail to do their job at all. A completely epic fail middle-boss can break a team apart. Even just an "adequate" middle manager will fail to reward the proper behaviors consistently (or punish poor behaviors consistently). Honestly, if you're in a dire situation... its best to GTFO. But not necessarily out of the company... maybe out to another management chain is enough to get away from toxic team politics.

waterlesscloud 11y ago

In my experience large, successful companies can be harboring a very large number of incompetent or irrelevant managers. The parts of the company that work often do so spectacularly and sometimes carry the bulk of the company that's broken. Eventually the tide goes out and reveals who's been swimming naked, but that can take decades. The point is- you definitely cannot look at a successful company and infer that all (or even most) of management knows what its doing.

adekok 11y ago

> after reading that post, my prob that the author is a very difficult person is 0.995. Or maybe higher. Oh, quite possibly. That doesn't negate the idea that perhaps their managers goals were opposite to Amazon's goals.