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> Even if a company wanted to send an employee there, they couldn't. You don't need a commercial flight to go somewhere. Don't fight something you think is hy

> Even if a company wanted to send an employee there, they couldn't. You don't need a commercial flight to go somewhere. Don't fight something you think is hyperbole with hyperbole. > If you want to keep coming up with excuses for why employees need to put up with bullshit from companies Slow down. I'm documenting the kind of BS companies pull. I'm not endorsing it. My mom was essentially fired for having cancer. It was done very creatively and legally.

imgabe 11y ago
> You don't need a commercial flight to go somewhere. Don't fight something you think is hyperbole with hyperbole. Are you seriously contending that sending an employee into an active war zone is something an actual employer [1] is actually capable of doing? Since you're documenting BS companies pull, care to provide any documentation of something like that actually happening? Whatever Amazon is like, I'm pretty sure they're not going to go to the trouble of flying someone halfway around the world and arranging transport into a war zone just because they went home at 5pm. Yes, companies pull all kinds of shady shit, but they're not gods. There are laws, and failing that, public shaming. If you act powerless, you'll be powerless. [1] Aside from the military, or a defense contractor, or other company where employees would be aware that such an assignment is a possible requirement of their employment.
- VikingCoder 11y ago
  A transfer to Oakland is just about as bad. And yes, my mother, while going through cancer treatment, was pretty much powerless, regardless of how she wanted to act.
  - imgabe 11y ago
    I'm sorry for what your mother and the rest of your family went through. I have no doubt that the company acted unfairly. Encouraging an attitude of fatalism and "they'll screw you no matter what!" is only going to exacerbate the problem. Companies will only continue to get away with things like that if everyone just accepts them as a fact of life.
    - VikingCoder 11y ago
      Want to hear something weird? I actually think it should be really easy for a company to fire someone, for whatever reason they want to. And I think we should have social services that make you not fear for your life to be unemployed. Free education. Free health care. Basic Income on top of that. But maybe I'm just completely nuts.
      - imgabe 11y ago
        Sure, I'm all for that. But as long as we have this system where we want corporations to be responsible for citizens' welfare instead of the government, we should make them step up to the plate and actually do it.
        VikingCoder 11y ago
        Encouraging an attitude that corporations can be responsible for citizens' welfare is only going to exacerbate the problem. Governments will only continue to get away with ignoring citizens' welfare if everyone just accepts it as a fact of life.

imgabe 11y ago

> You don't need a commercial flight to go somewhere. Don't fight something you think is hyperbole with hyperbole. Are you seriously contending that sending an employee into an active war zone is something an actual employer [1] is actually capable of doing? Since you're documenting BS companies pull, care to provide any documentation of something like that actually happening? Whatever Amazon is like, I'm pretty sure they're not going to go to the trouble of flying someone halfway around the world and arranging transport into a war zone just because they went home at 5pm. Yes, companies pull all kinds of shady shit, but they're not gods. There are laws, and failing that, public shaming. If you act powerless, you'll be powerless. [1] Aside from the military, or a defense contractor, or other company where employees would be aware that such an assignment is a possible requirement of their employment.

VikingCoder 11y ago
A transfer to Oakland is just about as bad. And yes, my mother, while going through cancer treatment, was pretty much powerless, regardless of how she wanted to act.
- imgabe 11y ago
  I'm sorry for what your mother and the rest of your family went through. I have no doubt that the company acted unfairly. Encouraging an attitude of fatalism and "they'll screw you no matter what!" is only going to exacerbate the problem. Companies will only continue to get away with things like that if everyone just accepts them as a fact of life.
  - VikingCoder 11y ago
    Want to hear something weird? I actually think it should be really easy for a company to fire someone, for whatever reason they want to. And I think we should have social services that make you not fear for your life to be unemployed. Free education. Free health care. Basic Income on top of that. But maybe I'm just completely nuts.
    - imgabe 11y ago
      Sure, I'm all for that. But as long as we have this system where we want corporations to be responsible for citizens' welfare instead of the government, we should make them step up to the plate and actually do it.
      - VikingCoder 11y ago
        Encouraging an attitude that corporations can be responsible for citizens' welfare is only going to exacerbate the problem. Governments will only continue to get away with ignoring citizens' welfare if everyone just accepts it as a fact of life.