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I know several people who have tried ketamine, but in powder form. Have any of you on HN tried? I saw people doing it only once, and they seemed quite functiona

by chm 11y ago

I know several people who have tried ketamine, but in powder form. Have any of you on HN tried? I saw people doing it only once, and they seemed quite functional, though a bit inebriated. They said it was a very pleasurable high. I guess they were on low doses. My main problem with street bought drugs is that you never really know what you're getting (I'm a chemist, seen my fair share of "white powders" during my training). I have argued with people countless times against their using substances of unknown origin. I'm really glad to see this available in a safe clinical setting. It's very mature.

disantlor 11y ago
I tried what seemed to me like a very small amount once. It was given to me by a friend who used it frequently so I felt comfortable with the source. To me it seemed pretty similar to pot. I found myself focusing a lot more intensely on the bass drum in the music (it just sounded so good!) but otherwise I was totally aware and functional; more so than I would be after even 2 or 3 beers. Granted it was a small amount but I definitely felt it. Woke up feeling totally fine the next day.
kstenerud 11y ago
I've tried it twice in powder form, one at a regular dosage, one at a "k-hole" dosage. The regular dosage is similar to getting drunk (the happy drunk stage), except that it's over in an hour. The k-hole dosage is a full-on psychedelic trip, also over in an hour. Now that I've tried it, I probably won't bother again due to the detrimental effects of long term use.
partyhacker 11y ago
Ketamine is a favorite drug of mine. It's pretty popular in the house/techno music scene, along with MDMA, LSD, and mushrooms. At "micro doses," you just feel like you're in a really great mood--not really inebriated at all. At low doses, it makes me feel very "silly." It's very fun to do with friends. You're all cracking jokes, laughing, making fun, dancing around. It's a dissociative, so it makes moving around and walking feel funny and novel. At low doses you are quite functional, though. Normally, I might have a tinge of social anxiety, and be on the more shy or reserved end of the spectrum. More than any other drug (including MDMA and alcohol), ketamine completely does away with any anxiety. I presume this is what makes it therapeutic. All worries are gone...you feel light-hearted and whimsical. At higher doses, the dissociative effect is stronger. This induces what is known as the "K hole." Ketamine is indeed a usable (and comparatively safe) anesthetic. You come down after 40-60 minutes. There isn't any negative comedown effect...more of an afterglow. At this point, you can do some more and go right back up. Keep on doing this, however, and you will generate a short-term tolerance. Ketamine is often diverted from veterinary supplies. You will get a liquid vial, which you can then heat up to dry it out into a powder. This is the best quality K you could hope to find. If you get it in powder form, it is likely to be cut with something...who knows what. https://dancesafe.org/ https://dancesafe.org/ is an organization that will test your drugs for you at an event. It was pretty cool to be able to buy some, take it over to their tent, and get it tested. The sample that I gave them tested positive for ketamine, but it did have something else that they could not identify. Most of the time, users have to rely on feedback from others for a confirmation on quality.
Cantremeber 11y ago
I've tried ket, but at this point it's way too expensive. You normally pay 70 to 90 dollars for 10 to 5 uses depending on your tolerance and other factors. It does help with depression but only temporarily. I've also experimented with other drugs in the dissos category. Namely: MXE - Twice as potent, twice as long ketamine but a bit weirder. Currently one of the most popular dissosatives for the people who do research chemicals. I've used this heavily in the past for depression but it's lost it's effectiveness for me. DXM - This drug always feels dirty to me, mainly because you have to take a bunch of cough syrup to get it's effects. You can get the raw powder but isn't really worth the hassle. Longer duration and unique feeling. Does help with depression but not worth it to me MXP- Feels like cleaner DXM. Didn't really enjoy it, didn't really help depression. MXM- Brand new, haven't tried it much, but really promising for depression in my eyes. Shorter then MXE, longer then ket, has a very unique feeling to it. 3-MEO-PCP - In my opinion this is the best for depression. you can't hole on it, and it ends up very stimulating. Basically mania in powder form. Generally people see the PCP in there and run scared. I will note PCPs in general are extremely hard to dose. Cheap scales can't normally do bellow twenty mg, and anything over 5mg can't fit on blotter. 3-meo-PCP doses between those two. N2O - does work for depression, sort of. Way too addictive to be worth it, and honestly leaves you feeling sort of blah. As for how you know what you're getting, you really don't. You rely on reputation and the crazy people who test these things. This whole process started for me when a dose of ketamine basically transformed me from suicidally depressed to fairly normal and functional in one use. It's like a light switch flips and given that current depression drugs take weeks to start working I hope that they figure this out.
- user_0001 11y ago
  Not sure about now, but a few years back the problem with Ketamine in the UK was it was so cheap. About £5 /$7 for a gram. It was all getting shipped over from Indian supplies by the litre (err 4 quarts(ish)). I hear now, after India cracked down, it got scheduled in the UK that prices are up and quality is down and mostly coming from China. Very little to none redirected from veterinary supplies for the UK market
  - Cantremeber 11y ago
nosuchthing 11y ago
Tried it as a pill, over the course of about 90 minutes started feeling what I can only describe as dreamy, and pleasantly spacey - almost abruptly the spaced out feeling dissipated and what I assume to be MDMA begin to take effect. It was a profound experience, and I wish there were more clinical studies [1] of these drugs which have an unfortunate stigma attached. Mornings after I've never felt too bad, and never felt urges of addiction, although I've certainly seen friends who've struggled with addiction but that is the case for alcohol and video games as well. The problem with prohibition and black market drugs is the products are of unknown quality and origin, and there is a lack of education and understanding in regards to therapeutic dosages vs abusive dosages. Luckily at the time, I was aware of sites [2][3] that allowed people to submit and comment on street E "brands" with reputed effects and suspected contents. Anecdotally, a few years later I came across the same brand/label/color pill and it was undoubtedly a different set of chemicals. In retrospect, it was a life changing experience that broke through a blinding state of depression I had at that time, and acted as what I can only describe as a positive "spiritual" experience. [1] http://maps.org http://maps.org [2] http://ecstacydata.org http://ecstacydata.org [3] http://pillreports.net http://pillreports.net
ionised 11y ago
I've tried it once or twice at parties. It's not for me really, it just made me recede into my own mind and made me feel like I was looking down a tunnel out of my own eyes. Then I spent an hour or so just cabbaged on the couch unable to really move much. Doesn't seem like a party drug at all (to me at least) whereas something like LSD or MDMA is just bags of fun in many situations.

by chm 11y ago

disantlor 11y ago

I tried what seemed to me like a very small amount once. It was given to me by a friend who used it frequently so I felt comfortable with the source. To me it seemed pretty similar to pot. I found myself focusing a lot more intensely on the bass drum in the music (it just sounded so good!) but otherwise I was totally aware and functional; more so than I would be after even 2 or 3 beers. Granted it was a small amount but I definitely felt it. Woke up feeling totally fine the next day.

kstenerud 11y ago

I've tried it twice in powder form, one at a regular dosage, one at a "k-hole" dosage. The regular dosage is similar to getting drunk (the happy drunk stage), except that it's over in an hour. The k-hole dosage is a full-on psychedelic trip, also over in an hour. Now that I've tried it, I probably won't bother again due to the detrimental effects of long term use.

partyhacker 11y ago

Ketamine is a favorite drug of mine. It's pretty popular in the house/techno music scene, along with MDMA, LSD, and mushrooms. At "micro doses," you just feel like you're in a really great mood--not really inebriated at all. At low doses, it makes me feel very "silly." It's very fun to do with friends. You're all cracking jokes, laughing, making fun, dancing around. It's a dissociative, so it makes moving around and walking feel funny and novel. At low doses you are quite functional, though. Normally, I might have a tinge of social anxiety, and be on the more shy or reserved end of the spectrum. More than any other drug (including MDMA and alcohol), ketamine completely does away with any anxiety. I presume this is what makes it therapeutic. All worries are gone...you feel light-hearted and whimsical. At higher doses, the dissociative effect is stronger. This induces what is known as the "K hole." Ketamine is indeed a usable (and comparatively safe) anesthetic. You come down after 40-60 minutes. There isn't any negative comedown effect...more of an afterglow. At this point, you can do some more and go right back up. Keep on doing this, however, and you will generate a short-term tolerance. Ketamine is often diverted from veterinary supplies. You will get a liquid vial, which you can then heat up to dry it out into a powder. This is the best quality K you could hope to find. If you get it in powder form, it is likely to be cut with something...who knows what. https://dancesafe.org/ https://dancesafe.org/ is an organization that will test your drugs for you at an event. It was pretty cool to be able to buy some, take it over to their tent, and get it tested. The sample that I gave them tested positive for ketamine, but it did have something else that they could not identify. Most of the time, users have to rely on feedback from others for a confirmation on quality.

Cantremeber 11y ago

I've tried ket, but at this point it's way too expensive. You normally pay 70 to 90 dollars for 10 to 5 uses depending on your tolerance and other factors. It does help with depression but only temporarily. I've also experimented with other drugs in the dissos category. Namely: MXE - Twice as potent, twice as long ketamine but a bit weirder. Currently one of the most popular dissosatives for the people who do research chemicals. I've used this heavily in the past for depression but it's lost it's effectiveness for me. DXM - This drug always feels dirty to me, mainly because you have to take a bunch of cough syrup to get it's effects. You can get the raw powder but isn't really worth the hassle. Longer duration and unique feeling. Does help with depression but not worth it to me MXP- Feels like cleaner DXM. Didn't really enjoy it, didn't really help depression. MXM- Brand new, haven't tried it much, but really promising for depression in my eyes. Shorter then MXE, longer then ket, has a very unique feeling to it. 3-MEO-PCP - In my opinion this is the best for depression. you can't hole on it, and it ends up very stimulating. Basically mania in powder form. Generally people see the PCP in there and run scared. I will note PCPs in general are extremely hard to dose. Cheap scales can't normally do bellow twenty mg, and anything over 5mg can't fit on blotter. 3-meo-PCP doses between those two. N2O - does work for depression, sort of. Way too addictive to be worth it, and honestly leaves you feeling sort of blah. As for how you know what you're getting, you really don't. You rely on reputation and the crazy people who test these things. This whole process started for me when a dose of ketamine basically transformed me from suicidally depressed to fairly normal and functional in one use. It's like a light switch flips and given that current depression drugs take weeks to start working I hope that they figure this out.

user_0001 11y ago
Not sure about now, but a few years back the problem with Ketamine in the UK was it was so cheap. About £5 /$7 for a gram. It was all getting shipped over from Indian supplies by the litre (err 4 quarts(ish)). I hear now, after India cracked down, it got scheduled in the UK that prices are up and quality is down and mostly coming from China. Very little to none redirected from veterinary supplies for the UK market
- Cantremeber 11y ago

nosuchthing 11y ago

Tried it as a pill, over the course of about 90 minutes started feeling what I can only describe as dreamy, and pleasantly spacey - almost abruptly the spaced out feeling dissipated and what I assume to be MDMA begin to take effect. It was a profound experience, and I wish there were more clinical studies [1] of these drugs which have an unfortunate stigma attached. Mornings after I've never felt too bad, and never felt urges of addiction, although I've certainly seen friends who've struggled with addiction but that is the case for alcohol and video games as well. The problem with prohibition and black market drugs is the products are of unknown quality and origin, and there is a lack of education and understanding in regards to therapeutic dosages vs abusive dosages. Luckily at the time, I was aware of sites [2][3] that allowed people to submit and comment on street E "brands" with reputed effects and suspected contents. Anecdotally, a few years later I came across the same brand/label/color pill and it was undoubtedly a different set of chemicals. In retrospect, it was a life changing experience that broke through a blinding state of depression I had at that time, and acted as what I can only describe as a positive "spiritual" experience. [1] http://maps.org http://maps.org [2] http://ecstacydata.org http://ecstacydata.org [3] http://pillreports.net http://pillreports.net

ionised 11y ago

I've tried it once or twice at parties. It's not for me really, it just made me recede into my own mind and made me feel like I was looking down a tunnel out of my own eyes. Then I spent an hour or so just cabbaged on the couch unable to really move much. Doesn't seem like a party drug at all (to me at least) whereas something like LSD or MDMA is just bags of fun in many situations.