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Also launching official bootstrap themes: http://themes.getbootstrap.com/collections/all http://themes.getbootstrap.com/collections/all Edit: unfortunately tho

by hliyan 11y ago

Also launching official bootstrap themes: http://themes.getbootstrap.com/collections/all http://themes.getbootstrap.com/collections/all Edit: unfortunately though, the 'dashboard' theme is not fully responsive (tables (order history) in mobile view)

pbreit 11y ago
Wow, $99.
- kirkbackus 11y ago
  They only provide one type of license: http://themes.getbootstrap.com/pages/our-license http://themes.getbootstrap.com/pages/our-license It is comparable to the "Multiple Applications License" provided by WrapBootstrap. Still relatively expensive since most Multiple Applications Licenses are under $99.
  - ckluis 11y ago
    Do I live in some sort of parrallel universe that thinks a well documented base design for dashboard/app that will presumably continue to mature for $99 is SUPER STINKING CHEAP? If this is officially supported by the Bootstrap project - this to me feels like a nuts deal.
    - cap_theorem 11y ago
      At first, I was skeptical, but after looking at the completeness and quality of themes are and how well they are documented, I complete agree. This is an excellent deal, especially considering how much it would cost to hire someone to build something comparable for you. Even then, it will not be as well-documented.
    - k__ 11y ago
      Am I allowed to modify it?
    - MichaelGG 11y ago
      You live in a superposition. It is very cheap! Yet when people are selling the same thing for $4, it also looks like a lot, even though it isn't. I recently bought some themes and I had to make a conscious effort to simply ignore the price. In fact, I wish such sites had an option to hide all pricing info. (Same in mobile apps. $5 is a steal for a decent app/game, by any direct measure of value. But comparatively, $5 is way more than most apps.)
      - coldtea 11y ago
        >Yet when people are selling the same thing for $4, it also looks like a lot, even though it isn't. Here's your problem: you assume it's "the same thing". Just because the $4 thing looks OK doesn't mean it has the same code quality underneath, or that it wasn't stolen (as lots of "premium themes" are).
        ssharp 11y ago
        I'm sure many of us have spent and hour or two browsing theme, finally buying one, find out it's not going to work, and then start the process over again. I've bought themes, both Bootstrap and others, that looked great, were dead cheap, and never got past the first open of the templates in Sublime Text. They were just too much of a disaster to work with. Knowing that I'm getting top-notch quality is worth the $99 for me, if the themes fit what I'm trying to do. The amount of time saved not undoing someone else's mess is worth much more than $99. That's not to say a cheaper theme isn't going to be good. I've also bought many that were quite good. I guess the difference here is that you can really trust what you're getting, and not have to rely on user reviews. I believe the Bootstrap people have earned enough trust where I know I'm getting a theme I can easily work with.
    - JohnBooty 11y ago
      I agree. I have definitely wasted $99 worth of time struggling with some of the crap commercial $5/$10/$15 Bootstrap themes out there.
      - ckluis 11y ago
        It feels like something officially supported would solve much of the poorly-documented semi-custom - virtually untweakable themes you can buy for $5. This feels (even in alpha) like a HUGE move in the right direction.
- jasoncartwright 11y ago
  $99 to have your site look like hundreds of others? No thanks.
  - headcanon 11y ago
    For an internal dashboard thats just supposed to work and look decent I'd say thats not a bad deal.
  - nilliams 11y ago
    Another way to look at it is that if your boss asks you to build a dashboard for a project at work, then $99 is a drop in the ocean for a quality dashboard theme built by the people that built bootstrap.
  - tajano 11y ago
    $99 to roll out an internal dashboard in hours, so my engineers can focus on more important things? Yes please. If this is for your personal webpage, $99 might be too much. If this is for your business, and $99 can save you more than an hour or two of employee time, it's a steal.
    - otis_inf 11y ago
      There are much cheaper, well made templates available for bootstrap, e.g.: http://themeforest.net/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&term=bootstrap http://themeforest.net/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&term=bootstrap
      - Implicated 11y ago
        Not the same thing. Have you tried to use any of these? How is their support? Documentation?
        otis_inf 11y ago
        Yes, I used 'Palas' as a base template for my company's site. Support is in general good, I'd say: lots of elements are worked out so you can build your layout with building blocks very rapidly, and configurability is often high. You still need to do work if you want to have your site look like something unique, but in general these templates are a great way to start. And they are the same thing, templates from bootstrap or from 3rd parties: you get an example site with several pages, pages with building blocks on them, less based customization css on top of bootstrap, documentation which block does what so it's easy to find where to customize e.g. a header color / font.
merpnderp 11y ago
Wow, only $99 for officially supported Bootstrap themes. I love it.
- JohnBooty 11y ago
  More expensive than some others out there but the quality of other commercial Bootstrap themes tends to be pretty low: - Many themes out there are never updated. I remember some $15-ish Bootstrap themes for 3.1 that were never updated for 3.2, etc - Many Bootstrap themes out there are non-semantic div hell. Headers wrapped in <div> tags with a class of "header" instead of simply using h1/h2/h3/etc tags. That kind of thing. Often because they were simple ports of themes from other frameworks. Bootstrap isn't always the most semantic thing in the world... but some of the Bootstrap themes you can buy out there are sheer crap. If these official Bootstrap themes can excel on those two points, they're a bargain. Also, from their About page at http://themes.getbootstrap.com/pages/about-us http://themes.getbootstrap.com/pages/about-us We keep Bootstrap funded and available for everyone. To date, we have never taken money from investors and have no corporate sponsorships. All our expenses are paid for by us through ad revenue on our docs. Pretty good reason to throw them $99 right there, if Bootstrap has saved you $99 of time over the years.
  - leftnode 11y ago
    Plus $99 is $0 for a company who wants a nice looking and well supported theme.
  - MarkyC4 11y ago
    I thought @fat and @mdo worked at Twitter? Surely Twitter still paid their salary as they worked on Bootstrap?
coderdude 11y ago
I hope this leads to a 'standard' way of developing Bootstrap-based templates. Something comparable to the submission guidelines on WrapBootstrap but codifying how a template's assets should be arranged, written, etc. Using Bootstrap as a base for new template designs was a major step forward for the template industry because customers aren't walking into a completely foreign codebase with each purchase. If that familiarity were extended further then it could lead to interoperability of component styles between templates developed by different designers, which is something customers have brought up numerous times over the years. It's never quite that simple but I think for example simple namespaces would be a step in the right direction ('.unify .nav-tabs' and '.vitality .nav-tabs').
- notNow 11y ago
  Why that standardization should be done a la Bootstrap and not any other framework?
  - coderdude 11y ago
    Nobody is stopping other frameworks from taking up such an initiative.
alternize 11y ago
the Dashboard one looks nice, but is currently (of course) still using Bootstrap 3. anyone knows if there's a free upgrade to a BS4 version once released?
- fat 11y ago
  all upgrades will be free, once v4 is stable :)
- dhgamache 11y ago
  Yeah. We're adding this to the FAQ right now, but the updates are free for the life of the theme (including updates to future versions of Bootstrap) <3
sologoub 11y ago
On iPhone, the marketing theme loads way zoomed in. Doesn't seem intentional, so probably a bug.
lobo_tuerto 11y ago
Thought they would be written with BS4. I hope they will be upgraded eventually.
vineet 11y ago
It is nice to see the bootstrap team creating themes, but it would have been nicer if they had supported the existing bootstrap theme community. Some of the sites like WrapBootstrap, Start Bootstrap, and Bootswatch are helpful additions to the Bootstrap community.
rattray 11y ago
Personally, I'm super happy to see that the creators of Bootstrap will finally be making some money off their incredible work. I'm hoping it really helps them focus on the project without as much stress, pain and guilt (as @fat has shared openly in the past).

by hliyan 11y ago

pbreit 11y ago

Wow, $99.

kirkbackus 11y ago
They only provide one type of license: http://themes.getbootstrap.com/pages/our-license http://themes.getbootstrap.com/pages/our-license It is comparable to the "Multiple Applications License" provided by WrapBootstrap. Still relatively expensive since most Multiple Applications Licenses are under $99.
- ckluis 11y ago
  Do I live in some sort of parrallel universe that thinks a well documented base design for dashboard/app that will presumably continue to mature for $99 is SUPER STINKING CHEAP? If this is officially supported by the Bootstrap project - this to me feels like a nuts deal.
  - cap_theorem 11y ago
    At first, I was skeptical, but after looking at the completeness and quality of themes are and how well they are documented, I complete agree. This is an excellent deal, especially considering how much it would cost to hire someone to build something comparable for you. Even then, it will not be as well-documented.
  - k__ 11y ago
    Am I allowed to modify it?
  - MichaelGG 11y ago
    You live in a superposition. It is very cheap! Yet when people are selling the same thing for $4, it also looks like a lot, even though it isn't. I recently bought some themes and I had to make a conscious effort to simply ignore the price. In fact, I wish such sites had an option to hide all pricing info. (Same in mobile apps. $5 is a steal for a decent app/game, by any direct measure of value. But comparatively, $5 is way more than most apps.)
    - coldtea 11y ago
      >Yet when people are selling the same thing for $4, it also looks like a lot, even though it isn't. Here's your problem: you assume it's "the same thing". Just because the $4 thing looks OK doesn't mean it has the same code quality underneath, or that it wasn't stolen (as lots of "premium themes" are).
      - ssharp 11y ago
        I'm sure many of us have spent and hour or two browsing theme, finally buying one, find out it's not going to work, and then start the process over again. I've bought themes, both Bootstrap and others, that looked great, were dead cheap, and never got past the first open of the templates in Sublime Text. They were just too much of a disaster to work with. Knowing that I'm getting top-notch quality is worth the $99 for me, if the themes fit what I'm trying to do. The amount of time saved not undoing someone else's mess is worth much more than $99. That's not to say a cheaper theme isn't going to be good. I've also bought many that were quite good. I guess the difference here is that you can really trust what you're getting, and not have to rely on user reviews. I believe the Bootstrap people have earned enough trust where I know I'm getting a theme I can easily work with.
  - JohnBooty 11y ago
    I agree. I have definitely wasted $99 worth of time struggling with some of the crap commercial $5/$10/$15 Bootstrap themes out there.
    - ckluis 11y ago
      It feels like something officially supported would solve much of the poorly-documented semi-custom - virtually untweakable themes you can buy for $5. This feels (even in alpha) like a HUGE move in the right direction.
jasoncartwright 11y ago
$99 to have your site look like hundreds of others? No thanks.
- headcanon 11y ago
  For an internal dashboard thats just supposed to work and look decent I'd say thats not a bad deal.
- nilliams 11y ago
  Another way to look at it is that if your boss asks you to build a dashboard for a project at work, then $99 is a drop in the ocean for a quality dashboard theme built by the people that built bootstrap.
- tajano 11y ago
  $99 to roll out an internal dashboard in hours, so my engineers can focus on more important things? Yes please. If this is for your personal webpage, $99 might be too much. If this is for your business, and $99 can save you more than an hour or two of employee time, it's a steal.
  - otis_inf 11y ago
    There are much cheaper, well made templates available for bootstrap, e.g.: http://themeforest.net/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&term=bootstrap http://themeforest.net/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&term=bootstrap
    - Implicated 11y ago
      Not the same thing. Have you tried to use any of these? How is their support? Documentation?
      - otis_inf 11y ago
        Yes, I used 'Palas' as a base template for my company's site. Support is in general good, I'd say: lots of elements are worked out so you can build your layout with building blocks very rapidly, and configurability is often high. You still need to do work if you want to have your site look like something unique, but in general these templates are a great way to start. And they are the same thing, templates from bootstrap or from 3rd parties: you get an example site with several pages, pages with building blocks on them, less based customization css on top of bootstrap, documentation which block does what so it's easy to find where to customize e.g. a header color / font.

merpnderp 11y ago

Wow, only $99 for officially supported Bootstrap themes. I love it.

JohnBooty 11y ago
More expensive than some others out there but the quality of other commercial Bootstrap themes tends to be pretty low: - Many themes out there are never updated. I remember some $15-ish Bootstrap themes for 3.1 that were never updated for 3.2, etc - Many Bootstrap themes out there are non-semantic div hell. Headers wrapped in <div> tags with a class of "header" instead of simply using h1/h2/h3/etc tags. That kind of thing. Often because they were simple ports of themes from other frameworks. Bootstrap isn't always the most semantic thing in the world... but some of the Bootstrap themes you can buy out there are sheer crap. If these official Bootstrap themes can excel on those two points, they're a bargain. Also, from their About page at http://themes.getbootstrap.com/pages/about-us http://themes.getbootstrap.com/pages/about-us We keep Bootstrap funded and available for everyone. To date, we have never taken money from investors and have no corporate sponsorships. All our expenses are paid for by us through ad revenue on our docs. Pretty good reason to throw them $99 right there, if Bootstrap has saved you $99 of time over the years.
- leftnode 11y ago
  Plus $99 is $0 for a company who wants a nice looking and well supported theme.
- MarkyC4 11y ago
  I thought @fat and @mdo worked at Twitter? Surely Twitter still paid their salary as they worked on Bootstrap?

coderdude 11y ago

I hope this leads to a 'standard' way of developing Bootstrap-based templates. Something comparable to the submission guidelines on WrapBootstrap but codifying how a template's assets should be arranged, written, etc. Using Bootstrap as a base for new template designs was a major step forward for the template industry because customers aren't walking into a completely foreign codebase with each purchase. If that familiarity were extended further then it could lead to interoperability of component styles between templates developed by different designers, which is something customers have brought up numerous times over the years. It's never quite that simple but I think for example simple namespaces would be a step in the right direction ('.unify .nav-tabs' and '.vitality .nav-tabs').

notNow 11y ago
Why that standardization should be done a la Bootstrap and not any other framework?
- coderdude 11y ago
  Nobody is stopping other frameworks from taking up such an initiative.

alternize 11y ago

the Dashboard one looks nice, but is currently (of course) still using Bootstrap 3. anyone knows if there's a free upgrade to a BS4 version once released?

fat 11y ago
all upgrades will be free, once v4 is stable :)
dhgamache 11y ago
Yeah. We're adding this to the FAQ right now, but the updates are free for the life of the theme (including updates to future versions of Bootstrap) <3

sologoub 11y ago

On iPhone, the marketing theme loads way zoomed in. Doesn't seem intentional, so probably a bug.

lobo_tuerto 11y ago

Thought they would be written with BS4. I hope they will be upgraded eventually.

vineet 11y ago

It is nice to see the bootstrap team creating themes, but it would have been nicer if they had supported the existing bootstrap theme community. Some of the sites like WrapBootstrap, Start Bootstrap, and Bootswatch are helpful additions to the Bootstrap community.

rattray 11y ago

Personally, I'm super happy to see that the creators of Bootstrap will finally be making some money off their incredible work. I'm hoping it really helps them focus on the project without as much stress, pain and guilt (as @fat has shared openly in the past).