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> Why not apply for British citizenship? She seems to fit all the criteria... Not everybody is willing to adopt another citizenship just like that. First of a

> Why not apply for British citizenship? She seems to fit all the criteria... Not everybody is willing to adopt another citizenship just like that. First of all not everybody can have dual citizenship (I have no idea if she can, she did not say which citizen she is) secondly it comes with certain requirements. It costs money and it requires you to swear your allegiance to that country, not everybody is willing to do. It'a also expensive and you need to pass tests. Not everybody has time and money for that. > Living (semi)permanently for years in any country on a visa seems kinda foolish to me, in the end you are the citizen of another country. How so? This should be the most natural thing in the world as all countries people immigrate to have provisions that allow you to stay in the country without being a citizen. Without that many people would be much worse of as giving up citizenship can have severe punishments (expatriate taxes for instance).

witty_username 11y ago
> swear your allegiance to that country Perhaps I'm ignorant, but isn't that merely a ceremonial procedure?
- prodmerc 11y ago
  I mean, you do officially swear to protect and serve the country, what it stands for and its people in a time of need, to respect the laws and customs. Whether you keep that promise or not is up to you, but obviously most people (hopefully) don't just throw promises around and actually feel like it's a big commitment...
- the_mitsuhiko 11y ago
  > Perhaps I'm ignorant, but isn't that merely a ceremonial procedure? Not at all if you are male and under conscription age as you will need to do military service. (Also more theoretically it affects a country going to war.)
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prodmerc 11y ago
I understand that (and it is a big commitment), but if they lived for a decade in a country and like it, why not? Seems like a better option than mucking around with visas and residence/work permits. I mean, this ILR gave them right of abode (if I understand correctly), and now they changed the laws so they can't work legally without a new document. What guarantees do they have that requirements for permanent residence won't change again in the future?

witty_username 11y ago

> swear your allegiance to that country Perhaps I'm ignorant, but isn't that merely a ceremonial procedure?

prodmerc 11y ago
I mean, you do officially swear to protect and serve the country, what it stands for and its people in a time of need, to respect the laws and customs. Whether you keep that promise or not is up to you, but obviously most people (hopefully) don't just throw promises around and actually feel like it's a big commitment...
the_mitsuhiko 11y ago
> Perhaps I'm ignorant, but isn't that merely a ceremonial procedure? Not at all if you are male and under conscription age as you will need to do military service. (Also more theoretically it affects a country going to war.)
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prodmerc 11y ago

I understand that (and it is a big commitment), but if they lived for a decade in a country and like it, why not? Seems like a better option than mucking around with visas and residence/work permits. I mean, this ILR gave them right of abode (if I understand correctly), and now they changed the laws so they can't work legally without a new document. What guarantees do they have that requirements for permanent residence won't change again in the future?