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Good thing you did it anonymously. We wouldn't want you to have to face any consequences for your actions. Let's hope you're not responsible for something like

by harryf 11y ago

Good thing you did it anonymously. We wouldn't want you to have to face any consequences for your actions. Let's hope you're not responsible for something like this http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/utah-dad-kills-family-father-day-murder-suicide-article-1.2267365 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/utah-dad-kills-fami...

dgfv1 11y ago
I'm sorry what does that article have anything to do with anything. And if some wacko kills his family and himself how is that in any way my fault?
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- simoncion 11y ago
  How was harryf in any way saying that the incident in Utah was your fault? Please take the time to read comments more closely before replying. If you find yourself angry at something, draft a comment, wait a few minutes, and re-read both the draft and the comment to which you are replying before posting. :)
- harryf 11y ago
  You took it upon yourself to interfere with other people's relationships and families. Whatever moral reasons you feel justify your anonymous intervention, when you start fucking with other people's relationships and families you have no idea of what's going to happen. A struggling young couple with a small child - the type of "hint" you provided might tip one or both parents over the edge... You have no idea. In short; IMO dick move
  - Lawtonfogle 11y ago
    Does this not apply to anything you send? Say you send a message that one spouse is involved in some illegal behavior. What if reporting child abuse results in the same outcome? The whole 'you could push them over the edge' can be applied to quite a lot of warnings to give a parent.
- mryan 11y ago
  If "some wacko" killed his family and himself as a result of your disclosure, would you feel any culpability at all? Of course, you didn't force them to join the site, but you did make the decision to disclose the information. What if someone joined the site before they were married, but never contacted anyone? Their spouse receives your email, and confronts them. They are unable to convince their spouse that they never cheated, and the marriage comes to an end. Do you feel culpability in this case?
  - Asbostos 11y ago
    If you spouse divorces you for irrational and unfounded reasons then anything else could trigger them too. You can't blame the messenger.
    - mryan 11y ago
      Agreed - at the end of the day, the decision to divorce comes from within the marriage. I'm not casting blame here - just curious about whether any scenario would lead him to feel culpable about spreading leaked information. IMHO it's a philosophically interesting topic with lots of gray areas.
_pmf_ 11y ago
> Let's hope you're not responsible Is the judge responsible if the delinquent hangs himself in prison?
- FireBeyond 11y ago
  Well, funny you should say that, because in the Aaron Schwartz case, many, many comments here on HN claimed exactly that, that the judge, prosecutor, DA were all directly responsible for his suicide.
tomjen3 11y ago
That is going a bit too far - the same thing could happen if somebody told him because they saw the wife having sex in a cheap motel, or found out for any other reason, would you still think they were guilty then?

by harryf 11y ago

dgfv1 11y ago

I'm sorry what does that article have anything to do with anything. And if some wacko kills his family and himself how is that in any way my fault?

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simoncion 11y ago
How was harryf in any way saying that the incident in Utah was your fault? Please take the time to read comments more closely before replying. If you find yourself angry at something, draft a comment, wait a few minutes, and re-read both the draft and the comment to which you are replying before posting. :)
harryf 11y ago
You took it upon yourself to interfere with other people's relationships and families. Whatever moral reasons you feel justify your anonymous intervention, when you start fucking with other people's relationships and families you have no idea of what's going to happen. A struggling young couple with a small child - the type of "hint" you provided might tip one or both parents over the edge... You have no idea. In short; IMO dick move
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago
  Does this not apply to anything you send? Say you send a message that one spouse is involved in some illegal behavior. What if reporting child abuse results in the same outcome? The whole 'you could push them over the edge' can be applied to quite a lot of warnings to give a parent.
mryan 11y ago
If "some wacko" killed his family and himself as a result of your disclosure, would you feel any culpability at all? Of course, you didn't force them to join the site, but you did make the decision to disclose the information. What if someone joined the site before they were married, but never contacted anyone? Their spouse receives your email, and confronts them. They are unable to convince their spouse that they never cheated, and the marriage comes to an end. Do you feel culpability in this case?
- Asbostos 11y ago
  If you spouse divorces you for irrational and unfounded reasons then anything else could trigger them too. You can't blame the messenger.
  - mryan 11y ago
    Agreed - at the end of the day, the decision to divorce comes from within the marriage. I'm not casting blame here - just curious about whether any scenario would lead him to feel culpable about spreading leaked information. IMHO it's a philosophically interesting topic with lots of gray areas.

_pmf_ 11y ago

> Let's hope you're not responsible Is the judge responsible if the delinquent hangs himself in prison?

FireBeyond 11y ago
Well, funny you should say that, because in the Aaron Schwartz case, many, many comments here on HN claimed exactly that, that the judge, prosecutor, DA were all directly responsible for his suicide.

tomjen3 11y ago

That is going a bit too far - the same thing could happen if somebody told him because they saw the wife having sex in a cheap motel, or found out for any other reason, would you still think they were guilty then?