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> default credentials, which are stickered or engraved on their routers. Which having a seemingly random admin and wifi password with WPA pre-configured is bet

by nadams 11y ago

> default credentials, which are stickered or engraved on their routers. Which having a seemingly random admin and wifi password with WPA pre-configured is better than no password. I remember a story where an individual connected to an open AP, scanned the network, found a windows network share with everyone read access, that had NES roms and their tax returns. The sad part, and still is true today, you couldn't help them without admitting that you committed a crime (a felony I believe).

raldi 11y ago
Sure you could -- just drop off a file someplace visible.
- DaFranker 11y ago
  > read access
  - raldi 11y ago
    If you have their tax returns, you can mail them a letter, or often even phone or email them.
- nadams 11y ago
  That would require committing a crime (in the US at least). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_piggybacking#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_piggybacking#Unite... This is too funny - why would you admit, to a cop, what you are doing??? You just say you are sitting in your car enjoying a nice day - and it wouldn't be a lie because technically you are. It just so happens you are doing other things as well. > He had been accessing the Internet through a nonprofit agency's network from a car parked nearby and chatted with the police officer about it. If you are thinking "but surely the legal system should understand this concept, right?" > "I had a feeling a law was being broken, but I didn't know exactly what" Or how about the library who didn't mind a patron was using their wireless system - but the police still wanted to press charges: > The library director said that Tanner had not broken any rules, and local citizens criticized police for their actions. From one of the news articles: > The police officer confiscated Tanner's laptop in order to inspect what he may have been downloading, That is a big NO. If a police officer ripped my laptop from my hands - I guarantee it would be a decision we would both regret.
  - raldi 11y ago
    I think you meant to attach this reply to some other comment.
    - nadams 11y ago
      No - you said drop off a file somewhere. Connecting to their open AP is a crime in itself. I was trying to point out that the legal system has no idea how to deal with the legalities of accessing APs. Of course, they would have prove I had a malicious intent (assuming they could track me down).
  - firethief 11y ago
    So don't sign the file with your real name?

by nadams 11y ago

raldi 11y ago

Sure you could -- just drop off a file someplace visible.

DaFranker 11y ago
> read access
- raldi 11y ago
  If you have their tax returns, you can mail them a letter, or often even phone or email them.
nadams 11y ago
That would require committing a crime (in the US at least). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_piggybacking#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_piggybacking#Unite... This is too funny - why would you admit, to a cop, what you are doing??? You just say you are sitting in your car enjoying a nice day - and it wouldn't be a lie because technically you are. It just so happens you are doing other things as well. > He had been accessing the Internet through a nonprofit agency's network from a car parked nearby and chatted with the police officer about it. If you are thinking "but surely the legal system should understand this concept, right?" > "I had a feeling a law was being broken, but I didn't know exactly what" Or how about the library who didn't mind a patron was using their wireless system - but the police still wanted to press charges: > The library director said that Tanner had not broken any rules, and local citizens criticized police for their actions. From one of the news articles: > The police officer confiscated Tanner's laptop in order to inspect what he may have been downloading, That is a big NO. If a police officer ripped my laptop from my hands - I guarantee it would be a decision we would both regret.
- raldi 11y ago
  I think you meant to attach this reply to some other comment.
  - nadams 11y ago
    No - you said drop off a file somewhere. Connecting to their open AP is a crime in itself. I was trying to point out that the legal system has no idea how to deal with the legalities of accessing APs. Of course, they would have prove I had a malicious intent (assuming they could track me down).
- firethief 11y ago
  So don't sign the file with your real name?