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Seems like a good outcome in the end... but the landlord asking her to clean bathrooms to stay there? What the hell?

by oxryly1 11y ago

danielvf 11y ago
I'm guessing this was cleaning the toddler affected bathroom(s). Have you seen what young child of the correct age will do to a bathroom in a single session? It's amazing! There's always number one, and possibly number two spread around. I still don't know how so much mess can be made without intentional effort. Source: I work from home, with children, clean bathrooms.
- modfodder 11y ago
  possibly, but most parents I know would clean up after their toddlers immediately in a bathroom that isn't in their own home. Maybe if the child is old enough to go by himself, but that didn't seem to be the case here. On the other hand, I've dealt with landlords who wouldn't even hesitate to use (abuse?) the power to throw someone out to get negotiate something like that. purely anecdotal.
- Mz 11y ago
  I will suggest that what is true of your children in your home is not universal truth. My kids were holy terrors on multiple fronts who could not be trusted for 30 seconds. Pissing all over the bathroom and smearing poop around was not one of the things they did. The request for one of the few women in the house to clean the bathrooms in order to stay reads as straight up sexism to me.
- oxryly1 11y ago
  Ah, but does your landlord ask you to clean the bathrooms as a condition of staying there?
- melindajb 11y ago
  the article clearly states that asking her to clean the bathrooms was a penalty for her child speaking to the other men in the house while they were working: "Sometimes, when Kurnia became absorbed in her work, the naturally curious Adam might wander over to another resident to ask what he (the residents were mostly male) was doing on his computer. Some found this cute; most didn't. Finally, someone complained to the landlord, who threatened to throw Kurnia and Adam out unless she agreed to clean the bathrooms. Scrubbing toilets for 15 people seemed too time-consuming, so Kurnia negotiated: she would pay a higher rent, take out the trash, and keep closer watch over Adam. The landlord granted a reprieve." setting aside the landlord's troubling, possibly illegal response; the lack of compassion of the male developers in said flophouse says volumes about the issues facing us in Silicon valley.

Seems like a good outcome in the end... but the landlord asking her to clean bathrooms to stay there? What the hell?

by oxryly1 11y ago

Seems like a good outcome in the end... but the landlord asking her to clean bathrooms to stay there? What the hell?

I'm guessing this was cleaning the toddler affected bathroom(s). Have you seen what young child of the correct age will do to a bathroom in a single session? It's amazing! There's always number one, and possibly number two spread around. I still don't know how so much mess can be made without intentional effort. Source: I work from home, with children, clean bathrooms.

modfodder 11y ago
possibly, but most parents I know would clean up after their toddlers immediately in a bathroom that isn't in their own home. Maybe if the child is old enough to go by himself, but that didn't seem to be the case here. On the other hand, I've dealt with landlords who wouldn't even hesitate to use (abuse?) the power to throw someone out to get negotiate something like that. purely anecdotal.
Mz 11y ago
I will suggest that what is true of your children in your home is not universal truth. My kids were holy terrors on multiple fronts who could not be trusted for 30 seconds. Pissing all over the bathroom and smearing poop around was not one of the things they did. The request for one of the few women in the house to clean the bathrooms in order to stay reads as straight up sexism to me.
oxryly1 11y ago
Ah, but does your landlord ask you to clean the bathrooms as a condition of staying there?
melindajb 11y ago
the article clearly states that asking her to clean the bathrooms was a penalty for her child speaking to the other men in the house while they were working: "Sometimes, when Kurnia became absorbed in her work, the naturally curious Adam might wander over to another resident to ask what he (the residents were mostly male) was doing on his computer. Some found this cute; most didn't. Finally, someone complained to the landlord, who threatened to throw Kurnia and Adam out unless she agreed to clean the bathrooms. Scrubbing toilets for 15 people seemed too time-consuming, so Kurnia negotiated: she would pay a higher rent, take out the trash, and keep closer watch over Adam. The landlord granted a reprieve." setting aside the landlord's troubling, possibly illegal response; the lack of compassion of the male developers in said flophouse says volumes about the issues facing us in Silicon valley.