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Again - if you'd made these points, I probably wouldn't have commented. You didn't; you flat out suggested exercising in London was a Bad Idea. I think you'll

by ciaranm 11y ago

Again - if you'd made these points, I probably wouldn't have commented. You didn't; you flat out suggested exercising in London was a Bad Idea. I think you'll find that the benefits outweigh the negatives[1] Also, how does one commute to work in central London without exposure to air pollution? I'm curious what your alternative suggestion is. [1] https://intranet2.bham.ac.uk/collaboration/cycling/documents/public/C-Health2.pdf https://intranet2.bham.ac.uk/collaboration/cycling/documents...

DanBC 11y ago
> Again - if you'd made these points, I probably wouldn't have commented. > You didn't; you flat out suggested exercising in London was a Bad Idea I've attempted to clarify any confusion. This conversation is going to be fucking tedious if you continue to refuse to accept that. I'm struggling to see the relevance of your cycling document. It doesn't mention air pollution as a risk (perhaps I missed it?) to cyclists; it's about cycling; so it has no relevance to a discussion about the risk of running in London pollution. (As an aside: It also strongly over emphasises the benefits of exercise on mental health. That's something I know a bit about and the document getting that wrong makes it feel less truthy). > Also, how does one commute to work in central London without exposure to air pollution? When you exercise you breath differently. You take more air into the lungs; you take that air deeper into the lung. This means that you take a greater quantity of particulates into the lung and that you take them deeper into the lungs. I'm really not sure why you think "don't jog through London rush hour" is such an outrageous suggestion. It's the advice given by public health officials. Here are three news reports giving pretty much the same advice (avoid the worst streets; avoid the worst times; avoid strenuous exercise) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/how-to-stay-safe-in-londons-air-pollution-cloud-10166913.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/how-to-stay-s... (This article recommends not going out at rush hour, let alone doing exercise) >> You’ll massively increase your exposure if you do strenuous physical exercise outside. It might be a good idea to skip your run today, especially if you have asthma. Indoor exercise like going to the gym or swimming at an indoor pool might make a nice change. http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/05/air-pollution-should-stop-you-exercising http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/05/air-poll... >> On high-pollution days, the advice for older people and those with lung problems is to reduce strenuous physical exercise. But even healthy people can experience discomfort such as sore eyes, a cough or sore throat, and are warned to consider decreasing outdoor exercise if they do. On days with very high levels of pollution – such as we experienced last month – everyone is advised to cut down their physical exertions. http://www.itv.com/news/london/2015-06-05/pollution-warning-as-toxic-air-makes-jogging-unsafe-in-city-streets/ http://www.itv.com/news/london/2015-06-05/pollution-warning-...

by ciaranm 11y ago

DanBC 11y ago

> Again - if you'd made these points, I probably wouldn't have commented. > You didn't; you flat out suggested exercising in London was a Bad Idea I've attempted to clarify any confusion. This conversation is going to be fucking tedious if you continue to refuse to accept that. I'm struggling to see the relevance of your cycling document. It doesn't mention air pollution as a risk (perhaps I missed it?) to cyclists; it's about cycling; so it has no relevance to a discussion about the risk of running in London pollution. (As an aside: It also strongly over emphasises the benefits of exercise on mental health. That's something I know a bit about and the document getting that wrong makes it feel less truthy). > Also, how does one commute to work in central London without exposure to air pollution? When you exercise you breath differently. You take more air into the lungs; you take that air deeper into the lung. This means that you take a greater quantity of particulates into the lung and that you take them deeper into the lungs. I'm really not sure why you think "don't jog through London rush hour" is such an outrageous suggestion. It's the advice given by public health officials. Here are three news reports giving pretty much the same advice (avoid the worst streets; avoid the worst times; avoid strenuous exercise) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/how-to-stay-safe-in-londons-air-pollution-cloud-10166913.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/how-to-stay-s... (This article recommends not going out at rush hour, let alone doing exercise) >> You’ll massively increase your exposure if you do strenuous physical exercise outside. It might be a good idea to skip your run today, especially if you have asthma. Indoor exercise like going to the gym or swimming at an indoor pool might make a nice change. http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/05/air-pollution-should-stop-you-exercising http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/05/air-poll... >> On high-pollution days, the advice for older people and those with lung problems is to reduce strenuous physical exercise. But even healthy people can experience discomfort such as sore eyes, a cough or sore throat, and are warned to consider decreasing outdoor exercise if they do. On days with very high levels of pollution – such as we experienced last month – everyone is advised to cut down their physical exertions. http://www.itv.com/news/london/2015-06-05/pollution-warning-as-toxic-air-makes-jogging-unsafe-in-city-streets/ http://www.itv.com/news/london/2015-06-05/pollution-warning-...