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I kind of like the idea of threaded chatting. Is there any other chat program that uses this idea?

by renke1 11y ago

andresmanz 11y ago
Does IRC count?
- Gracana 11y ago
  It does not. "Threaded" in this sense means "hierarchical chat messages," like the comment threads here on HN.
sonnyp 11y ago
XMPP protocol has an extension for that http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html IIRC oneteam[0] supports it. [0] http://oneteam.im/ http://oneteam.im/
- aw3c2 11y ago
  Is that bound to their servers or can I use any standard XMPP server?
aravindet 11y ago
Scrollback ( https://scrollback.io/scrollback https://scrollback.io/scrollback ) does, but in a different way (just two levels threading, each thread displayed as a card). I don't think HN-like multi-level threading would work very well with chat - you expect chat messages to be chronological.
0x4a42 11y ago
Facebook Wall.
fmargaine 11y ago
Not threaded per se, but miaou has a "conversation flow" through a visual helper -- see https://dystroy.org/miaou/intro https://dystroy.org/miaou/intro
mlinksva 11y ago
Wave
PopeOfNope 11y ago
It has the same problem every other threaded system has: notification of updates. How do you know what's changed and what hasn't? At least with linear chat you can draw a line on the screen and everything below it is new. Slashdot wasn't bad in that it greyed out everything you'd already seen and only show you the new messages, but even then you had to scroll all the way up and down the page to see what's new. If you could tag threads to follow... WOAH. I just found the hidden side pane that organizes all conversations by date, the most recent changes at the top. You click on it and it shows you the whole thread. Then you click on 'new pane' and it opens just that thread in a new window!! Well done, gentlemen. Well done.
- chromakode 11y ago
  Designer/frontend dev here -- thank you! Helping users understand what is going on in the tree has been a core challenge. However, exposing too much right away is very overwhelming, especially to people who are unaccustomed similar chat interfaces. I've been learning a lot about how to get the UX for this right from user feedback, but there's much more to explore. If you are interested in chatting about this problem, feel free to ping me in &heim. :) One amusing anecdote. We very recently rolled out two bits of functionality: auto-collapsing long threads, and defaulting to replying to your own thread you started. Many of the people who jumped in and started spamming today didn't realize they were confined to their own collapsed threads. :)
kawsper 11y ago
Yes. Flowdock ( https://www.flowdock.com/ https://www.flowdock.com/ ) a Slack competitor, we use it at our company. I have a hard time going back to IRC and Slack because it is so difficult when two or three conversations goes on at the same time in busy rooms. Flowdock only lets you go one conversation deep, though.

I kind of like the idea of threaded chatting. Is there any other chat program that uses this idea?

by renke1 11y ago

I kind of like the idea of threaded chatting. Is there any other chat program that uses this idea?

andresmanz 11y ago

Does IRC count?

Gracana 11y ago
It does not. "Threaded" in this sense means "hierarchical chat messages," like the comment threads here on HN.

sonnyp 11y ago

XMPP protocol has an extension for that http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html IIRC oneteam[0] supports it. [0] http://oneteam.im/ http://oneteam.im/

aw3c2 11y ago
Is that bound to their servers or can I use any standard XMPP server?

aravindet 11y ago

Scrollback ( https://scrollback.io/scrollback https://scrollback.io/scrollback ) does, but in a different way (just two levels threading, each thread displayed as a card). I don't think HN-like multi-level threading would work very well with chat - you expect chat messages to be chronological.

0x4a42 11y ago

Facebook Wall.

fmargaine 11y ago

Not threaded per se, but miaou has a "conversation flow" through a visual helper -- see https://dystroy.org/miaou/intro https://dystroy.org/miaou/intro

mlinksva 11y ago

Wave

PopeOfNope 11y ago

It has the same problem every other threaded system has: notification of updates. How do you know what's changed and what hasn't? At least with linear chat you can draw a line on the screen and everything below it is new. Slashdot wasn't bad in that it greyed out everything you'd already seen and only show you the new messages, but even then you had to scroll all the way up and down the page to see what's new. If you could tag threads to follow... WOAH. I just found the hidden side pane that organizes all conversations by date, the most recent changes at the top. You click on it and it shows you the whole thread. Then you click on 'new pane' and it opens just that thread in a new window!! Well done, gentlemen. Well done.

chromakode 11y ago
Designer/frontend dev here -- thank you! Helping users understand what is going on in the tree has been a core challenge. However, exposing too much right away is very overwhelming, especially to people who are unaccustomed similar chat interfaces. I've been learning a lot about how to get the UX for this right from user feedback, but there's much more to explore. If you are interested in chatting about this problem, feel free to ping me in &heim. :) One amusing anecdote. We very recently rolled out two bits of functionality: auto-collapsing long threads, and defaulting to replying to your own thread you started. Many of the people who jumped in and started spamming today didn't realize they were confined to their own collapsed threads. :)

kawsper 11y ago

Yes. Flowdock ( https://www.flowdock.com/ https://www.flowdock.com/ ) a Slack competitor, we use it at our company. I have a hard time going back to IRC and Slack because it is so difficult when two or three conversations goes on at the same time in busy rooms. Flowdock only lets you go one conversation deep, though.