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> Singling me out and talking down to me in public in no way improves your actual article. I think I see why you took it that way, but I am quite sure that tha
by DougMerritt 11y ago
> Singling me out and talking down to me in public in no way improves your actual article.
I think I see why you took it that way, but I am quite sure that that is not how Colin meant it, because I have seen him bend over backwards to educate, over the last decade or two.
He said:
> what it makes clear is that you never encountered any real pure math.
That sounds bad to you at first blush, ok...but the thing is that it is literally true, not an insult, and not just of you, but of almost everyone who is not an outright mathematician, because "math" is not what people think it is.
As a very general truth, it includes you, without at all picking you out from the general population.
To a mathematician, the college 101 courses like calculus and calculus-based statistics (and their prerequisites like arithmetic, algebra, geometry, trig) are not "math", they are more like the alphabet is to an English Literature major -- absolute necessary, but too low level to be directly about the subject at hand.
"Math" is about reasoning, not about e.g. knowing formulae to use on a pocket calculator.
Colin's blog post implies that people with a mathematical turn of mind will itch to know answers.
And I take it to be aimed at people who can sympathize with that itch: to know/understand answers to abstract problems.
I don't speak for Colin, but I myself welcome you or anyone who itches to know the answers, and I am unapologetic about defining outsiders as those who don't care.
It's not about your coursework scores, it's about what one's interests include, really.
Disclaimer: Colin is a real honest-to-god mathematician, I myself am merely a philomath.
- Mz 11y agoI am sure there was no malice aforethought in his words. I also am well aware he is a real mathematician and serious educator. He spoke in his own defense very aptly. I am aware most people here will understand his side far better than mine and will generally be more sympathetic to him than to me. Let me suggest he understood my side far better than you did (and another who came to his defense, then deleted the remark) and his reply was far more respectful, diplomatic and appreciated. I'm sure you meant well and I appreciate the good intentions behind your words.
- DougMerritt 11y agoYeah, Colin is good that way. But: > he understood my side far better than you did (and another who came to his defense, then deleted the remark) and his reply was far more respectful, diplomatic and appreciated. Holy shit you are a rude fuck. I'm sorry I even tried to be understanding and explain to an aggressive tool like you. > I'm sure you meant well and I appreciate the good intentions behind your words I can't say the same for you. It's been a long time since I was so effectively "damned with faint praise". Edit: regarding mathematics, you are anthropologically an outsider, but you're complaining because you might be looked down upon for that. Well you either join a community or remain an outsider, it's not complicated.