Right. I was just asking for confirmation so that I don't argue past the grandparent poster. I also feel like a lot of people take that stance because they fee

Right. I was just asking for confirmation so that I don't argue past the grandparent poster. I also feel like a lot of people take that stance because they feel that those on the opposing side are claiming that it is only because of race. More often than not, we are merely saying that race and class are interconnected; they are neither completely orthogonal, nor exactly the same. There are definitely cycles of racism, patriarchy, and homophobia that perpetuate class struggles that are difficult to break out of. There are also other class struggles that affect us all.