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What makes you think they are not already breached? By any available evidence, these guys can't even maintain a simple download counter on their wiki. A random

What makes you think they are not already breached? By any available evidence, these guys can't even maintain a simple download counter on their wiki. A random IT contractor like Snowden was already gone for a month and they had no idea. I think they still have no clue what he has. All the science fiction gives this very distorted picture when really the people working at the NSA are private-sector leftovers, and even if someone with half a brain slips into their ranks, a layer of ignorance and government inefficiency will promptly suffocate them. It's a good thing, their incompetence is our only protection.

knowaveragejoe 11y ago
Wow, if you really believe this, you've got another thing coming.
- bediger4000 11y ago
  Do you even have anecdotes to back this up? I'd prefer some kind of data, a citation or a revelation from you, but even anecdotes allow me to consider internal consistency. Lately, I'm becoming very suspicious of infosec people who imply huge threats, or mystical capabilities.
- revelation 11y ago
  I don't get it, what's keeping this childhood dream alive? Snowdens cache certainly hasn't instilled any confidence in the NSAs abilities.
orthoganol 11y ago
Surveillance state is all about $$, it's an evolving industry where people have figured out how to make billions. I share the same doubts with OP here, they aren't as much of a Big Brother as they are just a bloated cash cow scraping by & keeping appearances. They aren't particularly competent primarily because they don't really care as much as we think they do. Obviously it's still a terrible situation to setup this infrastructure given the potential for abuse, so I'm not defending it. I'm just saying I've been an American long enough to know $$ is at the heart of this, not control, and the $$ they're getting isn't dependent on how good of a job they do so don't expect a well oiled machined.

knowaveragejoe 11y ago

Wow, if you really believe this, you've got another thing coming.

bediger4000 11y ago
Do you even have anecdotes to back this up? I'd prefer some kind of data, a citation or a revelation from you, but even anecdotes allow me to consider internal consistency. Lately, I'm becoming very suspicious of infosec people who imply huge threats, or mystical capabilities.
revelation 11y ago
I don't get it, what's keeping this childhood dream alive? Snowdens cache certainly hasn't instilled any confidence in the NSAs abilities.

orthoganol 11y ago

Surveillance state is all about $$, it's an evolving industry where people have figured out how to make billions. I share the same doubts with OP here, they aren't as much of a Big Brother as they are just a bloated cash cow scraping by & keeping appearances. They aren't particularly competent primarily because they don't really care as much as we think they do. Obviously it's still a terrible situation to setup this infrastructure given the potential for abuse, so I'm not defending it. I'm just saying I've been an American long enough to know $$ is at the heart of this, not control, and the $$ they're getting isn't dependent on how good of a job they do so don't expect a well oiled machined.